20:36:28gingeraleI'd really love to get a copy of Twin Snakes..
20:43:40suntmcminty: yeah me too. but first i have to be accepted. and then i need to be selected for the real thing and not placebo. i'm not very optimistic
20:46:00mintywell, if you get accepted it's a 50/50
20:47:30mintyi've done lsd before. i dunno how they'd dose it for clinical trials but it's fun recreationally
20:47:36shinmeraAnd even if you get the placebo, it might still help.
20:47:55mintyyeah, placebo effect is a hell of a drug
20:48:38suntmcyeah but compared to 100ug of LSD i think you'll notice
20:49:02suntmc(they'd give you 100ug in the first round and then later 200ug in a second round)
20:49:44shinmeraThere's an interesting anecdote from Freud about that. Back in his day there was a lot of research about hysteria and such. Apparently there were cases of women experiencing the same mental and physical trauma symptoms as a friend, shortly after they learned of that friend having that illness.
20:50:08shinmeraMeaning that, through mental imagery alone they got all the same symptoms as a real case.
20:53:54shinmerahow many layers of google are you on
20:54:05suntmcyeah, but i don't want to look for studies
20:54:30suntmci just want to know if it's possible to experience placebo on a similar level as a real hallucinogenic drug
20:55:00suntmchttps://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200330181658.htm ah there we go
20:55:00Colleenwww.sciencedaily.com/releas... Website (HTML), Title: The placebo effect and psychedelic drugs: Tripping on nothing? The placebo effect in psychedelic drug
20:55:00Colleenwww.sciencedaily.com/releas... Website (HTML), Title: The placebo effect and psychedelic drugs: Tripping on nothing? The placebo effect in psychedelic drug
20:55:16shinmerathat was my first google result just now lol