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21:58:34
shinmera
bob consumed windom's soul and created a copy of cooper that he inhabits. this evil cooper then escaped and is now here in the real world.
22:04:14
minty
and then i posted a pic of gummy pizza n was like "you probably count this as pizza too, then"
22:04:21
gingerale
The preposition 'with' has no meaning on its own without a context. Pizza cooked within three minutes is still edible flatbread with tomato and cheese toppings.
22:06:00
shinmera
gingerale: sure it has meaning. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/with?utm_campaign=sd&utm_medium=serp&utm_source=jsonld
22:06:01
Colleen
www.merriam-webster.com/dic... Website (HTML), Title: With | Definition of With by Merriam-Webster
22:06:01
Colleen
www.merriam-webster.com/dic... Website (HTML), Title: With | Definition of With by Merriam-Webster
22:06:59
shinmera
just because it's not grammatically correct to use a word on its own doesn't mean it's not a word, nor would it imply the word has no meaning.
22:07:57
minty
let's just beat each other up in real life n get this over with i bet i could pin at least one of you before i get rolled over because of my shortness
22:11:41
shinmera
make no mistake he would absolutely suplex you like the bears he suplexes on his way to work
22:12:53
shinmera
I've had a couple of people (not a lot) say that they prefer my recent paintings over my usual stuff
22:13:39
shinmera
cause this isn't what I really believe I excel at and is just practise piggybacking off of a much better artist
22:14:13
shinmera
so hearing that they like what I don't really believe in better over the stuff I do believe in and commit to is... well, not great.
22:14:25
minty
is it also partially cuz it's something you've just started doing, as opposed to your regular art style which you've been working on for years n years?
22:15:29
shinmera
but simultaneously it also means they don't like the stuff I've been working on so much as much.
22:16:06
shinmera
I'm not super upset about it, just happened just now and felt it was worth elaborating on
22:16:46
shinmera
PincerAttack: I'm already carrying a lot from my own style into this. If you compare what I do to the source it's quite different
22:17:00
shinmera
But still, I don't want to be doing paintings, let alone ones that are as realistic as that.
22:17:38
shinmera
I've spent years honing my own thing and I think it's fun and unique. Hearing other people not appreciating that sucks.
22:19:23
shinmera
minty: I mean, ok, but that's going too far in the other direction. Now I don't know when to believe you or when you say something and it really actually means something.
22:19:56
shinmera
PincerAttack: nah. People in general (normies) respond better to more realistic art, or art they're more used to (generic).
22:20:03
gingerale
I just like seeing things being created and your skill improving, whichever way you decide to take it.
22:20:17
shinmera
stuff like mine where it's a bit out there and an 'acquired taste' in a sense just doesn't get much.
22:20:46
minty
i'm being serious. even though the calendar from last year tore n wouldn't flip over properly i kept all the art from it. i get wanting to try new things. hell, i do it all the time. photoshop, writing, sewing, beading, making figures, making plushies... wanting to try new things once in a while is refreshing
22:21:28
shinmera
minty: I believe you. What I'm saying is that, if you like /everything/ then your feedback for me as an artist is not worth much.
22:22:29
minty
my feedback as an artist is crap in a sense that we do different mediums anyway. i have no eye for line work
22:25:33
minty
looking forward to hopefully having a day off when you possibly art stream the next calendar month
22:25:42
Mithent
You mentioned that people do tend to respond to more realistic work, but that you're less interested in that... so I suppose some of it comes down to the old artistic dilemma of what you prefer doing vs what 'sells' to the widest audience
22:26:21
minty
i get trained on a new route next thursday n friday. n almost always work saturdays n mondays so...
22:26:47
shinmera
Mithent: Mmm, while you're right that's not really the point I'm trying to touch on. I would like stuff to be more popular, sure, but I'm not gonna bend to do that. I've been stuck in obscurity for a decade ain't gonna change at this point.
22:27:11
minty
now that i say that i can wait for my boss to call telling me i need to run mail those days
22:27:41
shinmera
Mithent: I'm more lamenting that people often think they're saying something positive, but don't realise it's actually hurtful.
22:29:14
shinmera
There's one guy on the Goon art discord (which you and gingy should still join) that is extremely good at just copying photo references.
22:29:42
shinmera
He's clearly very talented, but it's not something I would want to do for hours and hours like hed oes.
22:32:13
Colleen
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyJ... Website (HTML), Title: You're the most repulsive person I have ever met - YouTube
22:32:13
Colleen
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyJ... Website (HTML), Title: You're the most repulsive person I have ever met - YouTube
22:34:54
shinmera
Mithent: to expand on the response thing, people respond to stuff they relate to. So if they already know it in some fashion, it's more likely they'll instinctively take to it. That's why realistic paintings are more impressive, why fan art is more popular, etc. It takes mental effort to appreciate weirder things or new characters.
22:42:01
Mithent
shinmera: Yeah, that seems fair. I wouldn't say that your regular style is "weird", exactly? But it's true that it's more difficult to get attention if it's not hitting something that's not familiar to a wide variety of people already
22:49:43
shinmera
Mithent: it's possible she got some rotten food elsewhere and has an upset stomach because of that, so is hiding now
22:57:54
minty
lol "the existence of the british virgin islands implies the existence of the british chad islands"
6:12:29
gingerale
You know Robespierre? In my dream my aunt had dedicated him a small toilet. She was quite excited about it.
6:14:34
gingerale
You know Robespierre? In my dream my aunt had dedicated him a small toilet. She was quite proud of it.
7:37:59
shinmera
PincerAttack: yeah but big enough of a thing for an isp to sell gear to random people
7:39:03
PincerAttack
In Eternia, how do I stop making the buttons focused after saving or opening a menu?
7:39:17
gingerale
The ISP has a store for all sorts of things like phones, computers, gaming equipment, and IoT stuff.
7:39:39
shinmera
PincerAttack: what do you mean? Do all buttons stay highlighted or only the last one you hovered over?
7:40:59
PincerAttack
Since I use enter to go through the text this prevents me from using anything but the mouse
7:45:56
PincerAttack
But now I see minimizing the window makes all the graphics except for the background disappear
8:45:03
suntmc
shinmera: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-05-08-modders-nier-automata-hd-texture-pack-finally-complete-after-four-years-of-development
8:45:04
Colleen
www.eurogamer.net/articles/... Website (HTML), Title: Modder's Nier: Automata HD texture pack finally complete after four years of development • Eurog
8:45:04
Colleen
www.eurogamer.net/articles/... Website (HTML), Title: Modder's Nier: Automata HD texture pack finally complete after four years of development • Eurog
8:59:18
gingerale
Though I suppose I might as well have it early. I'll get to heating it in five or ten minutes.
9:04:10
shinmera
Pincers steam review: "buttons didn't work, there were typos, but it was a video game I guess"
9:07:12
shinmera
I mean, positive reviews are better for me of course, but I don't actually want to influence what you write.
9:12:10
PincerAttack
One last thing I noticed is there are a few errors with who is supposed to be talking
9:21:34
gingerale
Finally heating that meal. I thought I'd connect my new short HDMI cables to the splitter and the HDMI switch. Turns out that the switch just doesn't work. And Nintendo Switch doesn't like HDMI cables with a thick part along them, as these for some reason have on both ends.
9:22:14
gingerale
Got the splitter set up and to work at least for the future. Now I'll be able to stream Splat for you and you'll get to see how bad I am.