21:06:56mintybut yeah just garbage writing... i hate the guy who forgot what love is suddenly finds a woman who makes him feel again bs and the added insult coop knows windem's after him so he SHOULDN'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH ANYONE WHEN HE KNOWS WINDEM WOULD TRY TO HURT THEM OMFG
21:07:50mintyliterally have annie in the show just to be exactly what coop would like so she can die. she's a piece of furniture and not a whole, full-fledged character
21:09:08mintycoop like "i love you so much i forgot my own belief system and ignored warnings to bang you" and "i forgot to tell you i have a murderer after me lol"
21:10:59mintybecause whenever i would watch old ep's of the show on my own i'd drop off around the end of season 1
21:11:13gingeraleHmm.. My D&D players keep adopting things from small animals to elementals. Maybe I should let them have a fancy base of operations to leave those in back in the city.
21:58:34shinmerabob consumed windom's soul and created a copy of cooper that he inhabits. this evil cooper then escaped and is now here in the real world.
22:04:14mintyand then i posted a pic of gummy pizza n was like "you probably count this as pizza too, then"
22:04:21gingeraleThe preposition 'with' has no meaning on its own without a context. Pizza cooked within three minutes is still edible flatbread with tomato and cheese toppings.
22:04:29mintyn he was like "yeh i mean it still says pizza in the title"
22:04:30PincerAttackSame logic as microwaved pizza
22:05:28PincerAttackYou bailed us out so it's okay
22:05:58mintyi'll rescue you from your poor ideas here that shit aint real pizza
22:06:00shinmeragingerale: sure it has meaning. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/with?utm_campaign=sd&utm_medium=serp&utm_source=jsonld
22:06:01Colleenwww.merriam-webster.com/dic... Website (HTML), Title: With | Definition of With by Merriam-Webster
22:06:01Colleenwww.merriam-webster.com/dic... Website (HTML), Title: With | Definition of With by Merriam-Webster
22:06:45PincerAttackStill better than brazilian pizzas
22:06:59shinmerajust because it's not grammatically correct to use a word on its own doesn't mean it's not a word, nor would it imply the word has no meaning.
22:07:57mintylet's just beat each other up in real life n get this over with i bet i could pin at least one of you before i get rolled over because of my shortness
22:12:47mintyyou get any more sales today you hoe?
22:12:53shinmeraI've had a couple of people (not a lot) say that they prefer my recent paintings over my usual stuff
22:13:03shinmeraand while I get they mean well hearing it actually stings a lot
22:13:39shinmeracause this isn't what I really believe I excel at and is just practise piggybacking off of a much better artist
22:13:53shinmerait's also not what I want to be doing primarily
22:14:13shinmeraso hearing that they like what I don't really believe in better over the stuff I do believe in and commit to is... well, not great.
22:14:17PincerAttackMaybe if you'd be able to combine the two styles
22:14:25mintyis it also partially cuz it's something you've just started doing, as opposed to your regular art style which you've been working on for years n years?
22:18:36PincerAttackIt's a new thing so that might be why it gets responses
22:19:23shinmeraminty: I mean, ok, but that's going too far in the other direction. Now I don't know when to believe you or when you say something and it really actually means something.
22:19:56shinmeraPincerAttack: nah. People in general (normies) respond better to more realistic art, or art they're more used to (generic).
22:20:03gingeraleI just like seeing things being created and your skill improving, whichever way you decide to take it.
22:20:17shinmerastuff like mine where it's a bit out there and an 'acquired taste' in a sense just doesn't get much.
22:20:46mintyi'm being serious. even though the calendar from last year tore n wouldn't flip over properly i kept all the art from it. i get wanting to try new things. hell, i do it all the time. photoshop, writing, sewing, beading, making figures, making plushies... wanting to try new things once in a while is refreshing
22:21:17mintyso, i like seeing you try new stuff, for the sake of seeing you try new stuff.
22:21:28shinmeraminty: I believe you. What I'm saying is that, if you like /everything/ then your feedback for me as an artist is not worth much.
22:21:30mintybut i get how that'd be insulting. do what makes you happy
22:21:40PincerAttackThis is a cop-out but I'd like whatever you drew
22:21:46gingeraleOh yeah, the calendar.. April's art was fantastic.
22:25:33mintylooking forward to hopefully having a day off when you possibly art stream the next calendar month
22:25:42MithentYou mentioned that people do tend to respond to more realistic work, but that you're less interested in that... so I suppose some of it comes down to the old artistic dilemma of what you prefer doing vs what 'sells' to the widest audience
22:25:49shinmeraminty: well lemme know when you do and I can try to stream
22:26:17MithentI do find your style very much yours and very distinctive
22:26:21mintyi get trained on a new route next thursday n friday. n almost always work saturdays n mondays so...
22:26:42mintyfingers crossed for free time tuesday n wednesday
22:26:47shinmeraMithent: Mmm, while you're right that's not really the point I'm trying to touch on. I would like stuff to be more popular, sure, but I'm not gonna bend to do that. I've been stuck in obscurity for a decade ain't gonna change at this point.
22:27:11mintynow that i say that i can wait for my boss to call telling me i need to run mail those days
22:27:41shinmeraMithent: I'm more lamenting that people often think they're saying something positive, but don't realise it's actually hurtful.
22:27:51PincerAttackWould be a shame if everything you made looked like the new drawings anyway
22:28:46shinmeraEh. It's a way to work. I can see the appeal in doing just that.
22:29:14shinmeraThere's one guy on the Goon art discord (which you and gingy should still join) that is extremely good at just copying photo references.
22:34:54shinmeraMithent: to expand on the response thing, people respond to stuff they relate to. So if they already know it in some fashion, it's more likely they'll instinctively take to it. That's why realistic paintings are more impressive, why fan art is more popular, etc. It takes mental effort to appreciate weirder things or new characters.
22:42:00shinmerameanwhile ours is lost and hasn't been seen since morning.
22:42:01Mithentshinmera: Yeah, that seems fair. I wouldn't say that your regular style is "weird", exactly? But it's true that it's more difficult to get attention if it's not hitting something that's not familiar to a wide variety of people already