6:41:10
gingerale
Hmm.. I really should make myself a play-by-post thing for D&D. I really want to run side adventures but don't have the time to prepare the full things.
6:42:40
gingerale
There's a new book releasing for the setting I use. About a western frontier mining town, just at the border to the nation of monsters. Desert, a new rail line, influential people using it as a base to invest in the young nation of the monsters, and the players are the law with very limited resources.
6:43:00
gingerale
I should watch Deadwood someday. It sounded like it takes a lot of inspiration from that.
7:02:23
gingerale
Dang, out of müsli and juice.
8:38:58
shinmera
::notify minty eternia should work now
8:38:58
Colleen
shinmera: Got it. I'll let minty know as soon as possible.
8:38:58
Colleen
shinmera: Got it. I'll let minty know as soon as possible.
9:48:40
suntmc
https://imgur.com/gallery/2X52L7S
9:48:41
Colleen
imgur.com/gallery/2X52L7S Website (HTML), Title: My inner 12 year old self smiled at this. - Album on Imgur
9:48:41
Colleen
imgur.com/gallery/2X52L7S Website (HTML), Title: My inner 12 year old self smiled at this. - Album on Imgur
9:49:32
shinmera
suntmc: yesterday I couldn't stop laughing about a throwaway line in an abridged video that was "why do you gotta be so small peepee about it"
9:49:47
shinmera
I'm still laughing now thinking about it
9:59:16
shinmera
It's not a great abridged vid but w/e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AAPoyEjKVw
9:59:16
Colleen
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AA... Website (HTML), Title: KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY (ABRIDGED SERIES!) - YouTube
9:59:17
Colleen
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AA... Website (HTML), Title: KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY (ABRIDGED SERIES!) - YouTube
10:00:13
shinmera
gingerale: y u no stream
10:00:44
gingerale
Been busy. Only now having lunch.
11:30:58
isoraqathedh
Always short on time.
11:31:17
isoraqathedh
Turns out, having a 1 h commute one way and then another one the other way is not nice.
11:31:35
isoraqathedh
(Costs a bunch too. $14 one way and $10 the other)
11:33:14
shinmera
Assuming 8 hour sleep + 8 hour work + 2 hours eating + 2 hours commute, yeah, 4 hours isn't much of free time every day.
11:33:38
isoraqathedh
9 hours work, 1.5 hours on food, exercise and shower.
11:34:26
isoraqathedh
That's Asian work hours for you.
11:34:48
isoraqathedh
Lunch is unpaid but you generally work through it anyway.
11:35:12
isoraqathedh
My dad, the workaholic that he is, doesn't even come home until like 21:00.
11:36:28
shinmera
lol please get back to europe asap
12:33:16
suntmc
i guess that's probably the best way to let people know
12:34:59
suntmc
i completely broke my code
13:55:14
isoraqathedh
I want to write some code but I'm too tired after work.
13:55:21
isoraqathedh
I just finished showering and it's now 22:00.
13:55:37
isoraqathedh
I have like... an hour and a half before I have to go to bed for a reasonably sleep time.
14:19:17
minty
lolno it still doesn't work
14:19:17
Colleen
minty: shinmera said 5 hours, 40 minutes ago: eternia should work now
14:19:17
Colleen
minty: shinmera said 5 hours, 40 minutes ago: eternia should work now
14:19:56
minty
and teamviewer still won't give an id
14:20:22
minty
because there's no rush now to do it
14:42:16
shinmera
minty: did steam download an update for it?
14:42:52
minty
it says 1 of 1 downloaded when i open it? i might need to restart the computer because it might be failing in the background from yesterday?
14:43:10
shinmera
no, I'll have to check something fiirst
14:43:20
shinmera
fucking piece of shit thinkpad keyboard and its doubling keys
14:50:47
shinmera
Ok, no, I did upload a fix for that issue.
14:59:11
minty
okay but yesterday when i went to restart there was an "unknown" thing running in the background that i had to close. what if the game's still hypothetically open from yesterday?
14:59:33
minty
...how do i find out what's running?
15:00:13
shinmera
it's not, I can guarantee you
15:00:44
shinmera
Steam would also notice and show it as still running.
15:02:44
minty
am i the ONLY person having this issue?
15:05:27
shinmera
I don't know because it doesn't send a report.
15:05:44
shinmera
It's possible you're not. Someone else reported it not working today but I did fix that issue as I said.
15:06:55
minty
don't break the game for other ppl tryin' to fix it for my dumb ass
15:18:33
minty
lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1p8Qj9LXoo
15:18:33
Colleen
www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1p... Website (HTML), Title: Tom DeLonge hears Blink-182 at Baseball Game - YouTube
15:18:34
Colleen
www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1p... Website (HTML), Title: Tom DeLonge hears Blink-182 at Baseball Game - YouTube
15:29:48
minty
ugh nobody fuckin' comes to arkansas to do music shows
15:30:13
minty
how rob zombie gonna have shows in florida n avoid florida? they're both garbage states
15:30:30
minty
how rob zombie gonna have shows in florida n avoid arkansas? they're both garbage states
15:39:57
gingerale
I decided to add collision. https://www.gingeralesy.com/public/physics/
15:39:57
Colleen
www.gingeralesy.com/public/... Website (HTML), Title: Physics Toy
15:39:57
Colleen
www.gingeralesy.com/public/... Website (HTML), Title: Physics Toy
15:40:11
gingerale
It's a bity wobbly and squishy but I'll mess around with it another time.
15:40:47
shinmera
you gonna stream today?
15:41:00
gingerale
If I manage to cook dinner early enough, yes.
15:41:35
shinmera
meanwhile I have to get 7.1 surround working
15:41:41
shinmera
because apparently people have that???
15:45:23
shinmera
Gotten like 4 crash reports from people that can't run the game because it doesn't support that.
15:46:07
shinmera
And the fix is, for some reason, not as straightforward as implementing the channel converter segment for that. Why the fuck is it not working
15:51:22
suntmc
shinmera: headsets advertise themselves as 7.1 sometimes. virtual surround
15:51:28
minty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO6xp6nbxWM&list=OLAK5uy_lIzGsKsdcZDRMbEyxoBihW35lL9PW6yb0&index=11
15:51:29
Colleen
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO6... Website (HTML), Title: Blitzkrieg Bop (Live) - YouTube
15:51:29
Colleen
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO6... Website (HTML), Title: Blitzkrieg Bop (Live) - YouTube
15:51:53
suntmc
shinmera: i've had games crash sometimes bc i set windows to 24bit/192khz. maybe make sure that that's not an issue as well
15:52:15
minty
gingerale: ^rob zombie doing blitzkrieg bop
15:52:38
shinmera
suntmc: my engine just has no converter for stereo to 7.1 yet.
15:52:54
suntmc
shinmera: not a headset? are people seriously using more than 2 speakers on their PC? :o
15:53:00
shinmera
sample rate and type conversion I have covered already.
15:53:11
shinmera
I just get the automated crash report.
15:53:19
suntmc
shouldn't channel mixing be handled by windows anyway?
15:53:46
shinmera
yeah in theory it has capabilities to do that but it just says "can't do that lol" and then you have to do it yourself or not have sound at all.
15:54:17
shinmera
It won't even do samplerate conversion for you.
15:54:31
suntmc
but the windows mixer does that for everything i thought?
15:55:00
suntmc
unless you use wasapi or asio, i thought everything goes through the mixer
15:55:29
suntmc
(or kernel streaming if that's a thing on windows that's not WASAPI)
15:55:45
shinmera
wasapi is the lowest level thing aside from directly talking drivers
15:55:52
shinmera
and it has a "shared" and "exclusive" mode.
15:56:00
shinmera
in shared mode things go through the mixer.
15:56:06
shinmera
but it still refuses to do any conversion at all.
15:56:09
suntmc
yeah, i noticed that with foobar
15:56:20
shinmera
ironically enough most drivers will do conversion for you, so exclusive mode would work better lol
15:56:24
suntmc
can't you just not use wasapi at all then?
15:56:33
shinmera
what else would I use?
15:56:51
suntmc
or whatever windows uses as a default
15:56:58
shinmera
wasapi /is/ the default.
15:57:03
shinmera
directsound and others are deprecated.
15:57:03
minty
yeh man use the nespresso
15:57:10
suntmc
huh, guess they changed that then
15:57:19
suntmc
wasapi used to be optional on foobar
15:57:36
shinmera
I mean directsound and even winmm from fuckin' 95 still work
15:57:45
shinmera
but wasapi is the intended thing to use
15:58:26
shinmera
I could not get winmm or xaudio2 working properly though, and believe me I tried.
15:58:37
shinmera
directsound I never bothered to try
15:58:45
suntmc
hm. looking at the win docs
15:59:10
suntmc
wasapi and xaudio are low level. is there something against using a top level api?
15:59:32
shinmera
also xaudio2 is not low level
15:59:44
suntmc
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/audio/windows-audio-architecture according to this it kinda is?
15:59:44
Colleen
docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi... Website (HTML), Title: Windows Audio Architecture - Windows drivers | Microsoft Docs
15:59:44
Colleen
docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi... Website (HTML), Title: Windows Audio Architecture - Windows drivers | Microsoft Docs
16:00:20
suntmc
like, in the diagram it is not, but in the list below it is under Low Level
16:00:39
suntmc
but yeah, i guess windows is fun
16:00:48
shinmera
I need to stream audio, that's like all I need from the output.
16:01:03
shinmera
I already do mixing and all the other crap.
16:02:02
suntmc
i mean, expanding the sound to anything above 2.1 should be easy anyway? only map the stereo pair in the front and send an empty signal to all the other channels, no?
16:02:41
shinmera
I do have 5.1 mapping and from there to 7.1 it's easy
16:02:51
shinmera
but this isn't the issue, I've already implemented that now.
16:03:07
shinmera
I can output true 5.1 and convert from stereo to 5.1.
16:03:15
shinmera
the process for the latter is a bit more involved than what you describe.
16:03:45
shinmera
I use this method https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/25789335.pdf
16:03:46
Colleen
core.ac.uk/download/pdf/257... Application (PDF)
16:03:47
Colleen
core.ac.uk/download/pdf/257... Application (PDF)
16:04:35
minty
i feel like :smallpeepee: would be a great add sound clip
16:04:45
suntmc
ah yeah, actual upmixing. that's nice as well. if it were my game i'd say anything above stereo is overkill anyway
16:05:07
shinmera
Well yeah, I'm not gonna actually bother implementing surround for a 2D game lol (let alone a visual novel)
16:05:16
shinmera
But I need the output to work right.
16:11:19
shinmera
For some reason WASAPI doesn't seem to be consuming any samples in 7.1 mode? Wtf man.
16:12:10
shinmera
or something else is going wrong
16:12:15
shinmera
ugh I hate debugging this shit
16:19:06
shinmera
so packing is the fault, somehow.
16:31:00
shinmera
This is getting incredibly confusing now
16:41:22
shinmera
I don't understaaaaaand this
16:48:49
minty
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY GODDAMN RABBIT PLUSH I ORDERED IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE YESTERDAY
16:49:00
shinmera
you're the fuckin' postman
16:49:09
minty
IT LEFT FLORIDA ON MAY 1ST
16:49:20
minty
yes but i only deliver. i'm not on the mail handling side
16:49:26
minty
or the truck driving side
16:49:42
minty
i think ima cancel my summer class n make n sell plushies
16:50:10
minty
instead of what the school assigns
16:51:24
minty
i know it's not supposed to be funny but watching the little pop up in the corner every 5 seconds "Shinmera is now playing Eternia Pet Whisperer" is a little bit funny
16:51:41
shinmera
it's putting that to steam?
16:52:26
shinmera
I am but this fucking shit code I wrote is not.
16:53:00
shinmera
and I have no fucking idea why
17:13:50
shinmera
I think I know the problem but not how to fix it
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