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6:10:59 isoraqathedh shinmera: https://twitter.com/sealkiecove/status/1595227274923622400

7:23:19 shinmera morn

8:16:35 gingerale Goodness I feel too tired to work

8:16:42 suntmc same

8:16:44 gingerale Good morning, shin and iso and suntomic

8:16:49 suntmc yo

8:20:00 gingerale Instead of actual work I ended up writing functions for calculating the chance of success in n attempts with a defined probability at a single attempt. And the chance of attempts for a desired chance of success.

8:21:06 gingerale I can't quite figure out how to optimise it for speed in Common Lisp. I'd have to avoid different number types, summing rationals and floats together.

8:21:09 gingerale But I should actually work.

8:33:53 shinmera hello, I too am tired

8:33:56 shinmera and do not want to work

8:41:25 suntmc ye

8:41:42 suntmc i'm doing home office again today.

8:41:53 suntmc so i can be unproductive without anyone seeing me

8:42:53 shinmera I'm not, but not like I have anyone looking over my shoulder anyhow

8:46:29 suntmc one other motivation for home office is that subway has chicken fajita as their sub of the day. so it's actually affordable and i like it. i get to eat that for lunch

8:46:51 suntmc and i save on public transport when i don't have to go to oerlikon

9:00:47 shinmera Wipkingen doesn't have much in terms of takeout nearby and it kinda blows.

10:05:00 gingerale Oh gosh, suddenly huge headache spike

11:04:23 gingerale Oh, I hope I didn't heck up my medication

11:05:05 gingerale I had a note earlier to remember to take my meds. I think I didn't but I put the note away. I checked the thing I keep them in and based on it I didn't take any today, nor did I take yesterday either.

11:05:25 gingerale But it might be that I did take my meds when I brushed my teeth, forgot, took them again when I put the note away, forgot, and then now took them for a third time.

11:05:35 gingerale I really can't remember at all.

11:24:41 gingerale I think I need to start putting my pill container inside my mug I used while brushing teeth.

12:04:38 shinmera gingerale: at least if it's just antidepressants you can't OD.

12:04:45 shinmera so I wouldn't worry too much.

12:06:27 gingerale The one I get is considered somewhat dangerous in overdose.

12:06:46 shinmera I doubt double will do anything, though.

12:07:02 shinmera If anything, you worrying about it is going to do more

12:07:03 gingerale Nah, it wouldn't. But here, this is what I take https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion#Overdose

12:07:03 Colleen en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupro... Website (HTML), Title: Bupropion - Wikipedia

12:07:49 gingerale Worst it's ever caused was spikes of brain activity while I tried to sleep when I took it too late.

13:05:54 PincerAttack Yo

13:06:18 shinmera oY

13:24:49 shinmera PincerAttack: aw man you didn't have to. But thanks!

13:28:50 PincerAttack Got to appreciate spess

13:36:37 isoraqathedh Today I saw Grandma Wong still out there protesting while on my way to replace my ID card.

15:13:28 gingerale Good gosh I am so tired. I ended up climbing into bed in the middle of my workday for a while.

15:57:42 shinmera ech

17:19:33 minty good job shin

17:19:45 minty swiss won their first world cup match

17:19:50 minty v proud of you rn

17:20:04 shinmera football sucks and switzerland sucks

17:21:16 minty :argh:

17:21:47 shinmera Not like the teams matter at all, all of the players are imported from other countries

17:22:01 shinmera it's just nationalist hysteria and capitalism

17:22:17 minty i know the bread and circus is bread and circus

17:22:55 isoraqathedh Eh, it's Good Enough.

17:23:06 minty and that the stadiums are usually built with slave labor

17:23:22 isoraqathedh Also they play at stupid hours like 3 in the morning.

17:23:40 minty yeah the swiss game was at 4 am here

17:24:05 minty it sucks because it's such a universal sport... any country can play it it doesn't require a lot of gear just a ball and some friends

17:24:08 isoraqathedh Did you know that Animal Crossing has funny music at 03:00?

17:24:22 minty could be a great unifier if it were out of fifa's death grip

17:25:34 isoraqathedh The worst thing is that if you bag them and turn them in you get like maybe 20p for your troubles.

17:26:14 isoraqathedh I've never been interested in football.

17:26:25 isoraqathedh Though, so I don't really feel like emoting a lot about it.

17:26:36 minty i only watch the world cup. murrica not really a footie country

17:26:43 isoraqathedh I don't even watch that.

17:26:56 isoraqathedh Along with the 3:00 problem above it's just not an interesting game.

17:27:04 isoraqathedh Most ball games are better off being played rather than watching play.

17:28:03 isoraqathedh minty: So I learnt of this thing about tuning systems in music.

17:28:28 minty go on

17:28:30 isoraqathedh In most of the world, equal temperament as we use in contemporary Euramerican styles is actually fairly rare.

17:29:03 isoraqathedh Although we have earliest records of 12ET in China, they didn't use it. Europeans discovered it eventually.

17:29:48 isoraqathedh Most other places use a mix of systems that involve setting up each tone individually. Sometimes it's on a fixed interval, sometimes there's fewer tones, and most of the time it's mostly very flexible.

17:30:17 isoraqathedh There are two very simple reasons why equal temperament won out in Europe, and so the world:-

17:31:32 isoraqathedh 1. European music is unusual for involving more than one instrument and the human voice. The requirement that everyone needs to be playing the same pitch means that flexible tuning systems don't work.

17:33:46 isoraqathedh 2. Later on, the idea of there being a tonal centre (a key) and that you can /change/ between them means that in order for the music to sound good when changing between them, each key has to be roughly as good as each other without needing to retune. And so, equal temperament won out over other candidates such as Pythagorean tuning and well temperament.

17:34:09 isoraqathedh These two points reinforce each other until finally equal temperament won out.

17:35:11 minty this isn't something i had put a lot of thought into because i haven't played for years, honestly... i googled while reading and found a thing on other tuning systems

17:35:56 isoraqathedh One particularly interesting consequence of this is that it seems like if someone tries to create music using lots of traditional instruments from many cultures, you will have to end up retuning a lot of them or they will refuse to work together.

17:40:19 isoraqathedh That's not surprising, but it turns out that even absent Europeans the easiest solution might be equal temperament anyway.

17:43:37 minty so if i'm understanding this right, the equal temperament works fine for conventional violin type-strings but if you wanted to have, say, a sitar, a shamisen, and a bouzouki, it would sound off?

17:44:52 minty i'm curious to hear the audio differences of this now

17:47:25 minty back in a bit, food prep

17:49:38 isoraqathedh Equal temperament is /convenient/ if you want to have music involving lots of instruments. It is /necessary/ if you have keys and more importantly key changes in music.

17:51:32 isoraqathedh (Well, not necessary, but it is if you want to be able to change keys a whole lot or perform multiple pieces in different keys without retuning.)