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11:53:01 isoraqathedh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH-IrnE6mNE

11:53:01 Colleen www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH-... Website (HTML), Title: There are some similarities between western characters and symbols and Chinese characters - YouTube

12:00:21 shinmera I'll be grateful when no one writes in kanji anymore either.

12:03:29 isoraqathedh Lol.

12:03:43 isoraqathedh Honestly, Tangut is not that bad.

12:03:56 isoraqathedh There is a powerful internal logic to it that you can't see with small samples like this.

13:35:15 shinmera I remain unconvinced that cramming a lot of information into a single glyph, no matter how organised, is a good idea.

13:37:54 isoraqathedh It's not that though.

13:38:50 shinmera It *is* that. Each glyph has a ton of strokes. That's more information, whether it's meaningful or not.

13:39:15 isoraqathedh It only looks like that because we haven't yet convinced a computer to be able to reconstruct a Chinese character directly from its constituent parts. If we did we wouldn't have to give each one a new "glyph".

13:39:38 shinmera it's a glyph in my mind as well.

13:39:48 isoraqathedh It's like spelling.

13:40:19 shinmera I'm sure it is, but my original point remains. cramming lots of info into one space sucks for many reasons.

13:40:19 isoraqathedh Maybe you do this, or maybe you don't, but it's not impossible for someone to commit every word into memory as a single object.

13:40:50 isoraqathedh And also, there is roughly a minimum space which every component takes up.

13:41:07 isoraqathedh It's not a trivial value to calculate but it is there.

13:42:34 isoraqathedh If you don't think so, any competently designed text with sinograms and Latin letters in two separate blocks would have the sinograms be printed significantly larger than each Latin letter.

13:42:50 isoraqathedh And finally, in Chinese (and also in Korean), /one square block means one syllable/.

13:43:04 isoraqathedh Words that are two syllables long /take up two characters/.

13:49:05 isoraqathedh "Sometimes when [Americans] talk about 'their babies' they mean a dog or a cat"

14:34:37 gingerale ::weather

14:34:37 Colleen Weather for gingerale in Vantaa: clear sky at 27°C, 46% humidity, 6km/h wind, 1010hPa pressure.

14:34:41 gingerale Hecking..

14:37:25 shinmera ::weather wipkingen

14:37:25 Colleen Weather in Wipkingen: few clouds at 33°C (feels like 32°C), 35% humidity, 2km/h wind, 1016hPa pressure.

14:45:30 PincerAttack :rip:

14:53:30 isoraqathedh It's funny that now we're not as hot as you guys.

14:59:09 PincerAttack ::weather budweis

14:59:09 Colleen Weather in Ceske Budejovice: light rain at 32°C (feels like 39°C), 78% humidity, 2km/h wind, 1014hPa pressure.

15:07:38 gingerale I want to work on a thing but too hot..

16:00:46 gingerale I should go to the pharmacy but it's so hot out there..

16:01:06 gingerale Maybe if I just bring water with me.

17:37:45 shinmera beh, got wrist pains

17:43:19 shinmera don't know if I should stream

17:43:28 shinmera don't really feel too good.

17:43:32 shinmera in my brain

18:03:03 gingerale Same, I spent a lot of my walk trying to make my brain stop. Focusing on music helped for a while at a time.

18:03:19 shinmera dunno what to do tho

18:03:40 gingerale We could rimworld, if you're up for that.

18:03:48 shinmera not really, no

18:04:38 gingerale Hmm..

18:04:48 shinmera I just wanna lie down

18:04:50 shinmera in a grave

18:05:14 gingerale I'm sorry.

18:06:30 shinmera :imsorry:

18:06:32 shinmera sorry for what

18:07:18 gingerale That you feel that way and I wish I was able to help you feel better.

18:10:29 shinmera wish I knew myself

18:12:34 gingerale Hmm.. GOG gave me Horizon Zero Dawn digital comic.

18:12:49 gingerale Also the artbook, if you don't have it

18:12:56 shinmera Don't care to look at it.

18:13:43 gingerale Alright.

18:21:37 shinmera Do we have something to watch together

18:21:38 shinmera anything?

18:21:48 gingerale Uhh

18:22:04 gingerale Is there something you haven't watched?

18:26:22 shinmera I'm sure there's more things I haven't watched than things I have watched :v

18:26:45 gingerale Well, yes, but something you've thought of watching but haven't.

18:27:06 shinmera a lotta things, but those I don't start cause I don't feel like it? Idunno.

18:27:18 shinmera breaking bad, shows like that, mostly.

18:27:50 gingerale Ah yeah, pretty long stuff

18:28:20 gingerale One old show I've been meaning to watch sometime is Deep Space Nine. I like the idea of a scifi series that completely takes place on a space station.

18:28:29 gingerale But that's super long, I think

18:28:38 shinmera Trek is another thing yeah

18:28:49 shinmera but for trek it's also that I don't know if I could get over the... old-ness of it.

18:31:27 gingerale I heard the new series is really good

18:31:45 gingerale But I heard that from people who like all the old series so there's likely bias.

18:31:51 shinmera I heard the newest season is "ok" and the other new stuff is "absolute trash"

18:33:38 gingerale Oh yeah, forgot there's two

18:34:29 gingerale I used to watch the original series because they put it on late night TV during summers. Used to get reruns of really old shows like that.

18:34:48 shinmera I'm surprised they localised it

18:35:01 gingerale It was subtitled.

18:36:07 shinmera that's still localised

18:36:38 gingerale Another series I watched for a while during the golden era of online piracy was the Voyager. I quite liked it but some of the character drama just turned me off from it.

18:40:57 shinmera I'm looking at a list

18:41:05 shinmera and I'm just thinking I don't want to watch anything neither

18:42:25 gingerale Hmm.. I'm trying to think if there's something

18:57:58 gingerale Well, nothing's come to mind, I'm afraid..

18:58:32 gingerale Oh yeah, I discovered today that there's a big store that's open all the way to midnight. I can use that if I have nothing to eat in late evening again.

19:02:13 shinmera cool

19:31:54 PincerAttack Goodnight

20:43:54 gingerale I better sleep, now that I have melatonin again.

20:43:56 gingerale Goodnight.

20:44:11 gingerale I hope you get some good sleep tonight.