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6:08:03
gingerale
Hm.. If I leave my browser open as I shut down my PC then Windows will open it as I boot it up. But it opens it in the background /before/ I properly log in. And the page loads before extensions. So if the open tab's page was from YouTube the ad-blocker isn't loaded and it will start by playing advertisements.
8:32:18
gingerale
Doing misclicks in Ace Attorney is the worst not because of the penalty but because it takes so long sometimes for it to get through the "no, you're wrong dialogue."
8:32:51
shinmera
you can get through dialogue really fast by holding the "speak fast" button and mash-clicking
8:50:06
gingerale
They do? I just ended up checking for differences. Things moving slightly was easy enough to spot.
9:27:49
shinmera
having to watch them one by one say guilty and tehn do the thing when you already know far ahead it's gonna happen is just painful
9:28:37
shinmera
In general I feel like the jury just changes their minds in a far too obvious way, and only at select points, rather than ever really being involved and changing their mind throughout.
9:29:58
shinmera
Or, I guess, it never really feels like you're convincing anyone on the jury, they only ever go for guilty during the actual trial.
9:33:26
gingerale
I feel that if they were anything more than puppets it'd make it way too many characters to keep a track of.
9:35:06
shinmera
I feel similarly about the follow-up mechanic. There's never a case where you can follow up on someone and it doesn't advance the plot. If there ever is an opportunity, you have to take it.
9:40:24
shinmera
I do have a fundamental problem with the games still that I don't know how to reconcile. Either the choices are obvious and you go through without a hitch, or you actually have to think but then it gets frustrating because the game only has one way to proceed.
9:44:50
gingerale
At least the game seems to often allow two related choices. In the upcoming dialogue it then starts with one and later brings out the other.
9:46:45
PincerAttack
Yeah, sometimes there is more than one valid piece of evidence when you have to present something
9:53:01
PincerAttack
There are moments when the game expects you to handle the solution and doesn't give you an obvious hint when you make a mistake, so I suppose that could be a problem
9:56:54
shinmera
Yeah, honestly I don't know how to solve that problem unless you somehow had AI that was as smart as actual people
9:57:38
shinmera
Cause the game kinda needs to figure out your thought process to be able to tell you how you're wrong
10:09:37
gingerale
Nah, you just need a whole /lot/ of different sorts of people to test it for every iteration.
10:10:36
shinmera
but unless the game can actually adapt to how you play, that's not gonna work out.
10:11:58
shinmera
One thing that I absolutely loved about this game is that your assistant actually fucking knew law and had good suggestions.
10:12:45
gingerale
Here's an old article that's still used for mystery game design a lot. https://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/1118/roleplaying-games/three-clue-rule
10:12:47
Colleen
thealexandrian.net/wordpres... Website (HTML), Title: The Alexandrian » Three Clue Rule
10:12:47
Colleen
thealexandrian.net/wordpres... Website (HTML), Title: The Alexandrian » Three Clue Rule
10:32:50
shinmera
and this is the first metroid that actually looks fun to me? the movement seems really cool and fluid compared to the typical clunky, heavy stuff in the other games.
10:37:44
gingerale
I did really enjoy Samus Returns on 3DS though. But Dread feels like an improvement on it.
10:37:47
PincerAttack
But it's true that this is the one where you're the most mobile, that slide adds to it
10:38:39
gingerale
Also the running counter. And the wall jumps are really comfortable to perform. And ledges operate really nicely. And just running left and right controls well.
11:15:15
gingerale
And yeah, Adam's voice acting is very bad. I ended up looking for JP audio for that but it wasn't in the settings.
11:15:22
gingerale
And yeah, Adam's voice is very bad. I ended up looking for JP audio for that but it wasn't in the settings.
13:13:44
Colleen
Shinmera is now listening to Summation Examination by Yasumasa Kitagawa <https://tinyurl.com/yh9x8kuu>
13:13:44
Colleen
Shinmera is now listening to Summation Examination by Yasumasa Kitagawa <https://tinyurl.com/yh9x8kuu>
13:16:05
shinmera
PincerAttack: Also now that you're done with the game https://tiermaker.com/create/all-ace-attorney-characters-6203
13:16:05
Colleen
tiermaker.com/create/all-ac... Website (HTML), Title: Create a All Ace Attorney Characters Tier List - TierMaker
13:16:05
Colleen
tiermaker.com/create/all-ac... Website (HTML), Title: Create a All Ace Attorney Characters Tier List - TierMaker
13:23:33
shinmera
spoilers (?) https://64.media.tumblr.com/f6b20b13d7c2dc8dc56cdd429e54d818/c1b4adc892f0ec9f-07/s1280x1920/fd08bc59e4b28b304cb4d4b932fd9693e70e0b77.jpg
13:43:09
PincerAttack
https://chat.tymoon.eu/data//stevenchan/2ea37eebe765db2d070122988b5b65b01798d7d4bdf25d8c8e3b236e3671c93f.png
14:26:24
shinmera
I also think case 2 is where things are really weird because of it needing to tie up things that had to be cut from the first game.