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20:56:25
pl
they only provide LGPLed builds every X releases, though I think you can build them from scratch if you want
7:17:34
Shinmera
there's probably thousands if not millions of productivity lost from people constantly bemoaning and arguing this, too.
7:35:23
hayley
Somewhat late to the joke, but if Picolisp ran on 32-bit ARM CPUs, we could have corruption due to type errors on embedded devices too, I think.
7:38:23
hayley
Would call it the C of the Lisp family, but very clever people want to invent something even closer to C still, so I can't joke about that.
7:45:34
lisp123
Alfr: the scale is much lower (number of complainers vs. number of programmers not using CL)
7:48:21
lisp123
On another topic, if anybody is interested in implementing the TeX program in CL, I'm willing to sponsor its development to a certain level
7:48:58
lisp123
Send me a private message if interested. There is a C source code which is probably easier than reading the book (sorry D Knuth)
8:25:04
hayley
I don't. Best ask him in #lispcafe (or ask him to fix his IRC client, so that he can join other rooms).
8:27:24
hayley
It would be nicer to have our discussions on automata in #one-more-re-nightmare rather than scattered between #lispcafe and private messages, too.
8:28:38
hayley
(Now who the hell cloned my repository 96 times per day for the past week? If that's what happens when I submit it to Ultralisp...)
8:34:14
hayley
(That would appear to be the case, as Ultralisp does not detect any of the libraries in the "Telekons" organisation, so I had to input the URL manually, and the site warns "project will be updated only by cron" if one inputs the URL. Darnit)
8:40:12
phantomics
lisp123: As much disgust as I have for many mainstream technologies and the industry surrounding them, some of their dysfunction may have helped us avoid a vastly worse situation than we have now
8:41:20
phantomics
For example, Microsoft's efforts to dominate the computer world were predicated on ubiquitous open-spec hardware. If the PC had failed, all consumer-purchasable computing devices might have ended up being locked-down iOS-like ecosystems
8:46:06
phantomics
And the dysfunction of the Unix-model OSes helped to propel the FOSS movement. If Symbolics had won the desktop computing race and released a near-perfect but proprietary Lisp machine, they might have been bought by IBM with their LispM used as the basis of a centrally-controlled walled garden with software of sufficient reliability that no one would be able to justify attempting to compete with it, leading to perpetual IBM control