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15:58:19
beach
This: https://github.com/robert-strandh/SICL/blob/master/Code/Boot/pointer.lisp is what I came up with for POINTER.
15:59:05
beach
For host objects such as symbols and strings, I will allocate an equivalent ersatz object and traverse that one instead.
16:00:29
beach
It will be a bit messy, because I have to recognize target specialized arrays and vectors and treat the elements as unsigned 64-bit integers to store directly in memory.
16:08:19
mfiano
beach: What does "ersatz" mean? It seems like something I should know about, since googling for that term returns a few different "ersatz lisps".
16:11:53
mfiano
There is a "Ersatz PicoLisp" for Java, and a "ToriLisp - An ersatz Lisp for tiny birds" whatever the hell that means.
16:13:27
mfiano
Ok. I thought it was something related to Lisp history, considering SICL is the 3rd use of it in the context of Lisp I've seen. I'm apparently not German :)
16:13:59
beach
Well, it may very well have been the Lisp crowd that introduced it with its English connotation.
16:16:12
beach
Ah, it became prominent in English during World War I, and was used for substitute products that replaced things like coffee.
16:19:37
beach
I am surprised you didn't know it since it is quite frequently used in English, and has been for a long time.
16:20:24
mfiano
Not in the states it isn't. Maybe closer to Germany it is. Faux is used very occasionally, but I have near heard ersatz before.
16:26:30
Gnuxie
never heard anyone say it, I probably have seen it written before, but honestly I didn't know what it meant before SICL
16:27:05
selwyn
i heard it before but was not sure of the meaning. was under the impression it meant fake in the sense of being inauthentic or overwrought
16:32:36
beach
So far, I haven't found a longer description of whether it came first into UK or America.
16:34:18
yitzi
I doubt it is. As a native speaker I have seen people use in in written form, but never spoken. Granted that is just my experience.
16:35:16
Bike
actually i remember where i think i learned it, https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CaptainErsatz which is an originally american website and does see the need to define it as a german word
16:37:43
beach
Oh, well. And here I thought the use of it in SICL would make the intention totally obvious. I guess, I'll make a footnote in the specification.
16:39:08
beach
A significant part of my job is to come up with reasonable-length words to describe non-trivial phenomena. Like "rack", "stamp", "bridge", "ersatz".
16:52:50
beach
My (admittedly small) family just announced that dinner is served. I'll be back tomorrow.