libera/#shirakumo - IRC Chatlog

6:46:31 glenneth2 Good morning o/

6:50:15 Colleen <Hugo> morning!

6:50:42 Colleen <Hugo> sleep ok glenneth2: ?

6:51:08 glenneth2 Hey Hugo

6:51:32 glenneth2 No mate. Getting about 3 hours a night lol

6:53:21 Colleen <shinmera> zyd: I only just woke up, but remember that "foo" is a file designator, not a directory designator, and that's important for pathnames.

7:04:46 Colleen <glenneth> Hey shinmera o/

7:05:31 Colleen <glenneth> I made some cahnges to the master branch on cl-uastc. Thanks for the scaling program for benchmarking. It really helped

7:05:44 Colleen <shinmera> yay

7:06:12 Colleen <shinmera> I also wanted to do benchmark scaffolding, but my brain refused to focus on that :(

7:06:18 Colleen <glenneth> I would appreciate it if you could put it through it's paces at some point :)

7:06:26 Colleen <shinmera> yeeeeah, me too :v

7:07:23 Colleen <glenneth> so I was studying the graph table from sb-sprof while i was travelling on Sunday, and then started making changes based on that too. It did improve performance. Thank you for that pointer too

7:07:44 Colleen <shinmera> did you use the slime view?

7:08:43 Colleen <glenneth> I did. The biggest gains were from making declarations

7:08:49 Colleen <Hugo> glenneth2: sorry to hear that. do you ever drink tea? Camomile tea practically knocks me out. Actually same question to shinmera.

7:09:43 Colleen <shinmera> I drink tea when I'm sick, but otherwise not really

7:10:59 Colleen <glenneth> I don't hugo coffee drinker. I've tried, just not my thing lol

7:13:19 Colleen <glenneth> and shinmera I appreciated the call out in your post too. And I'm glad that led to more work on the lichat stack :) I will get back to the client later today. I'm thinking how to "spread the word" about lichat. I've actually incorporated it into a project so users can chat with a QA/QC person in the app

7:13:28 Colleen <Hugo> well, if sleep is an issue maybe give camomile tea a try, it will make you really relaxed even if you don't like tea so much

7:14:23 Colleen <glenneth> thanks hugo I'll give that a try

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7:27:43 Colleen <shinmera> glenneth: nice! :)

7:28:57 Colleen <glenneth> It works really well :)

7:30:55 Colleen <glenneth> http://chat.tymoon.eu/data//shirakumo/9ba071ca8fa4f1338b4bce7dae70d848c744e3d427cd7dd457bc19f4429d6454.png

7:30:57 Colleen <glenneth> In App chat :)

7:31:13 Colleen <shinmera> oooh :)

7:31:45 Colleen <shinmera> hope that's not uh, data that shouldn't be public

7:33:17 Colleen <glenneth> no. Test data

7:33:44 Colleen <shinmera> ah, phew :)

7:33:57 Colleen <glenneth> lol

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17:12:54 zyd Shinmera: Is that significant for why the behavior of define-pool needs an extra "../" in pathnames?

17:20:19 Colleen <shinmera> zyd: it's significant to your messages which write "data" without the trailing slash

17:20:28 Colleen <shinmera> idk what you're trying to do with it, so

17:21:19 zyd it doesn't seem to change the behavior. one sec, ill show you what I'm doing

17:25:31 zyd Shinmera: https://paste.sr.ht/~zyd/acb73fdf270d494046e925d2713d7ba0d86e41f1

17:30:37 Colleen <shinmera> so the way it works is basically ./data/ + your base path, so if you pass ../foo it results in ./foo

17:31:21 Colleen <shinmera> and because foo is not a directory it results in ./

17:33:15 zyd Thing is, this happens even if I correct it to include the trailing slash.

17:33:33 Colleen <shinmera> no, if you include the trailing slash it results in ./data/

17:33:36 Colleen <shinmera> which is the same as before

17:33:46 zyd o

17:33:49 Colleen <shinmera> ./foo is ./ which is not what you want

17:34:05 zyd This is such confusing behavior

17:34:17 Colleen <shinmera> CL pathnames do not treat files same as directories

17:34:33 Colleen <shinmera> (because historically there were systems that did not)

17:41:27 Colleen <shinmera> could emit a warning if the pathname-name or -type is set tho

17:41:35 Colleen <shinmera> (this could be YOUR 🫵 first PR)

17:47:39 zyd A warning could be nice, sure.

17:49:47 zyd Should it use the define-simple-condition macro in conditions.lisp? I see there's asset-input-file-missing in there

17:50:52 zyd time for lunch mmmm

17:51:20 Colleen <shinmera> zyd: sure, though in this case just ERROR is fine since this is not a runtime error

17:51:34 Colleen <shinmera> so idk that anyone would ever want to handle it specifically with a dedicated type