libera/#shirakumo - IRC Chatlog

13:08:08 Colleen <shinmera> Sure.

13:10:29 Colleen <shinmera> Though usually I appreciate it when people just ask, rather than ask to ask.

13:10:54 Colleen <shinmera> https://dontasktoask.com

13:15:52 drakonis they already left

13:15:55 drakonis as per usual lol

13:16:03 Colleen <shinmera> figured

14:11:57 Jungyyy Well I was wondering whether trial was targeted towards Windows or just Linux? I saw some notes that suggested it may be, but trying to quickload it is producing compile-file-errors.

14:13:48 Jungyyy I come from a Clojure background but CL with Trial seemed like it would be more suited for making a game. Unfortunately CL's still pretty obtuse to me.

14:51:02 Colleen <shinmera> I mean... I released a full game with it

14:51:11 Colleen <selwyn> it can work on windows and linux

14:51:14 Colleen <shinmera> would be a very strange foot gun to not make it work on linux

14:51:22 Colleen <shinmera> err, windows

14:51:32 Colleen <selwyn> i used to develop with trial entirely on windows

14:52:10 Colleen <selwyn> its worth learning common lisp properly, maybe you can pick it up while learning trial idk

14:52:47 Colleen <selwyn> developing with common lisp on windows requires that you pay attention to your development environment

14:52:57 Colleen <selwyn> probably it can't locate some foreign libraries

14:53:46 Colleen <shinmera> :shrug: it's impossible to know what's wrong with the setup without knowing more

14:55:17 Colleen <shinmera> about what the error actually is

14:59:26 Colleen <shinmera> trial itself doesn't depend on any foreign libraries

15:00:50 Colleen <shinmera> anyway, it's midnight, so I am off to sleep.

16:04:58 Jungyyy Alright, thank you. The error is tied to cffi-grovel, so I'll look into that then, knowing it should be able to work on Windows.

17:22:42 Colleen <selwyn> if you upload the error to a pastebin i can try to help

17:31:04 Jungyyy Oh, that'd be very helpful. I posted it here: https://pastebin.com/ES2fkgas. But if you don't get an opportunity to look it over, no worries.

17:31:23 Jungyyy I'm going to try to puzzle over it this evening.

17:34:39 Colleen <|3b|> looks like you have a local copy of cffi checked out with windows linefeeds, which confuses your lisp

17:35:06 Colleen <selwyn> good spot

17:36:10 Colleen <|3b|> easiest solution would probably be to just move that and use cffi from ql, if you don't need something specific from that version, otherwise configure git to use unix line endings (at least for lisp stuff)

17:36:47 Colleen <|3b|> maybe newer sbcl would help, not sure if support for windows line endings got finished yet or not (or if i'm even remembering correctly that someone was working on it recently)

17:37:30 Colleen <|3b|> windows line endings are annoying anyway though, so i usually just configure everything to not use them where possible

17:57:47 Colleen <selwyn> there must be a reason why this is a problem

17:57:54 Colleen <selwyn> ive never experienced this on windows

17:58:10 Colleen <selwyn> i recommend using lisp from within msys2

18:10:24 Jungyyy Wow yeah, that seems to have fixed it!

18:10:45 Jungyyy Thank you for the look over.

18:22:22 Colleen <|3b|> selwyn: combination of sbcl devs not getting around to supporting it + git defaulting to conversion + using tilde-newline in format. last one makes it somewhat rare to notice, and possibly at some point you configured git not to do the conversion for other reasons

18:22:35 Colleen <|3b|> (and/or possibly some sources of git have different defaults?)

19:14:58 Jungyyy I don't think I ever set git to prefer Windows endings, so I'm guessing it is some form of default.

19:15:29 Jungyyy Have since resolved the next issue in loading it (insufficient default heap memory). On to this one that looks like an SBCL bug.

19:20:52 Colleen <selwyn> how are you using git on windows?

22:19:43 Jungyyy the git executable through the command prompt.

22:21:07 Jungyyy I'm afraid I'm not much of a window person. It's my main computer because I enjoy games, but I actually know very little about it comparatively. So I don't use powershell, cygwin, mysys, etc.