libera/#commonlisp - IRC Chatlog

11:50:02 green My latest distraction is starting to work a little, so I thought I'd share. It's a way to run java code in lisp by JIT transpiling java bytecode to lisp. It maps java classes to CLOS classes, and maps java exceptions to lisp conditions. reflection, class loading, and more work. Well, enough to startup and run simple programs using OpenJDK 8's rt.jar classes. It's really just intended for when you want to use a

11:50:02 green java library in your lisp project. But there's a long way to go! https://github.com/atgreen/openldk

11:55:12 jackdaniel cool project!

11:55:58 jackdaniel somewhat similar iota by froggey transpiles llvm ir to cl

11:58:59 green Yes, I've heard of that. But what's nice about this is that you can interleave java and lisp code, use conditions/restarts and debug your code with sly.

11:59:33 green Many years ago I worked on gcj, which mapped java classes to C++ classes, and this is similar in spirit. In fact, I'm using some of the gcj testsuite.

12:07:30 varjag green: this is wild

12:11:45 jackdaniel ACTION can't wait to try running ABCL in SBCL :3

12:12:03 jackdaniel it will be called SABatiCaL

12:16:26 green abcl > openldk > sbcl > iota > abcl > etc ...

12:17:06 jackdaniel abcl > openldk > sbcl > iota > mezzano

12:17:09 jackdaniel baremetal abcl

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13:07:27 scymtym green: is there any relation to https://github.com/lisp-mirror/cloak ?

13:09:02 Inline ah, java, rich libs from which to have the drivers ?

13:10:38 green scymtym: no relation. In fact I had never heard of that. Although I see that it uses the mauve testsuite I created 20+ years ago.

13:11:22 scymtym green: i see. thanks

13:16:01 green looking at it.. it's pretty cool, and much further along than openldk (it could start eclipse!). But it makes different decisions for a couple of things, so not exactly the same. One nice thing is that it implements the JNI interface, which I haven't tackled yet. I'll definitely learn for this -- thanks for pointing it out!

13:17:11 scymtym sure

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14:48:06 fe[nl]ix green: this is your opportunity to take over Cloak and merge the two code bases. David has stopped working on it long time ago

14:49:00 green If I don't end up borrowing some code, I'll definitely use it for further inspiration.

14:49:10 fe[nl]ix I might actually need it at some point if I can get my startup idea off the ground

14:51:15 green Yes, I was looking to integrate some java code with lisp a couple of years ago and wasn't very happy with the options. I think LispWorks has some special magic that you can't reproduce on SBCL. screenshotbot takes advantage of that, but you can't run the whole stack on SBCL (not that I want to.. I just noticed that they have the same problem).

14:52:32 green And then I have some history with fringe java projects (gcj, the mauve testsuite, and I created/wrote the first version of the GNU Classpath License, which makes some of this possible)

14:52:41 green so I thought I'd give it a shot

14:54:37 fe[nl]ix nice

15:03:22 fe[nl]ix green: see the private message

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19:07:34 Shinmera I don't know why I keep doing this but I can't stop myself https://mastodon.tymoon.eu/@shinmera/113952151000329523

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