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20:39:49
dirtcastle
true. it's just my assumption but for some reason it looks like lispers don't use guix distro because it uses guile scheme? and nyxt and lem editor is getting attention. it looks like lots of lispers want their software written in common lisp and not any other lisp.
20:40:52
dirtcastle
morganw: what u said is true but they all definitely feel like we are dirty our hands but it's usuable I think.
20:42:45
morganw
I've only just started to use it, but for me the problem is that the development workflow doesn't feel natural and loading the packages is so slow it doesn't seem possible without compiling it all ahead of time. But other people don't seem to be hampered so perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
20:45:20
morganw
I think they will always be interesting in having the tooling work well and work better, and there is so little hardware that works on the free software kernels that I think most people will already be using other channels.
20:48:20
phantomics
dirtcastle: I've thought a CL init system would be cool, both that and a package manager would be huge projects
20:51:22
morganw
I've not tried it, but it sounds a bit more like standard configuration management rather than custom tooling all the way down.
1:25:42
nyx_land
the real problem with guix IME as a Common Lisp person is that it doesn't feel at all like it's designed to be a fully interactive environment like CL. you write code, you recompile everything, you can't inspect the running system live really (there's Geiser but I found it to be a very subpar experience). on top of that, developing CL with guix tooling feels very unnatural.
1:26:19
nyx_land
an init system in CL would be really cool, not sure why no one has ever attempted something like that but it's probably way more complicated that I'm aware of
1:27:03
nyx_land
a CL package manager would be a slog just based off my experiences making packages for nix and guix
8:34:33
Guest69
Sorry to crosspost from #ecl if that is not good boy behaviour, but I'm having troubles doing basic stuff like getting function info via describe/inspect or requiring uiop; any kind soul to help a noob?
8:37:52
pjb
Guest69: uiop is part of asdf. You should install quicklisp anyways. Have a look at http://cliki.net/Getting+Started