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8:01:28
beach
This: https://github.com/s-expressionists/wscl/blob/main/wscl-issues/proposed/use-package-remove-incorrect-terminology is the "issue" I came up with for fixing the incorrect terminology in the description of USE-PACKAGE.
8:25:09
pjb
beach: I approve https://github.com/s-expressionists/wscl/blob/main/wscl-issues/proposed/use-package-remove-incorrect-terminology
8:47:19
beach
I think it is becoming more clear as I read the standard in detail, that they must have run out of time. Many of the issues I find would have been easily spotted if there had been more time to go over each dictionary entry in detail.
8:47:43
beach
But it is still an amazingly well written document compared to some others I have seen.
9:27:08
lisp123
pve: thanks, no I use the slime debugger a bit (point and click) but I'm really a n00b at all this. Now its my goal to become an expert and build a good workflow for debugging / tracing etc (esp cause what I'm working on now requires it, even if everything works correctly - with all the loops and recursions, it will just be a black box otherwise)
9:28:07
lisp123
the cookbook is also really good for this, reading it now. Thanks pve & bike for your help yesterday, was very helpful in setting me on my way
11:01:01
lisp123_
pjb: thanks <3 Is it on QuickLisp? Otherwise do I need to download the whole / lisp / directory from GitHub and then load which file (stepper.lisp?)
11:11:16
pjb
lisp123_: yes; the recommended way is: cd ~/quicklisp/local-projets ; git clone https://github.com/informatimago/lisp.git com-informatimago
11:13:16
pjb
There are some limitations, so sometimes you need to add a (declare (stepper disable)) in some deep functions… But for normal functions, it's nice.
11:24:59
_death
will wscl also incorporate proposals to fix the issues in https://www.cliki.net/ANSI%20Clarifications%20and%20Errata
11:26:34
lisp123
pjb: Can I check how to use it? I have tried following the comp.lang.lisp notes (defpackage .. use cl-stepper ...) (in-package ..) but I get some errors down the track
11:26:35
scymtym
_death: Bike turned some of those into WSCL issue, so yes. but not all are suitable
11:27:45
scymtym
see https://github.com/s-expressionists/wscl/commit/a89b79264dd5b4bbd9767826607deec2b552f40d and the following commits