libera/#commonlisp - IRC Chatlog

18:08:26 palter Symbolics Technologies is pleased to announce that Symbolics Genera and the Virtual Lisp Machine (VLM) are now available under a free for non-commercial use license. We are currently in an invitation-only early beta period. If you apply but did not receive an invitation, your application will be held until a later date. For details, please visit https://symbolics.biz/.

18:09:03 palter Correction, https://www.symbolics.biz/

20:13:33 JohnCowan better than nothing, but still ridiculous

20:14:27 JohnCowan who's going to pay for a commercial license?

20:15:45 dlowe I can only assume that the military has had some mission-critical software running on Genera all this time and they finally ported it to Java or something

20:16:09 dlowe and (importantly) it is illegal to charge the military a different price than everyone else

20:16:28 dlowe which is how Allegro gets away with its bonkers pricing structure

20:18:47 skulk the claims about LLMs on that website are _wild_

20:19:53 JohnCowan it is more than doubtful than SymTech actually owns the rights

20:27:25 aeth _oh_

20:27:29 aeth of course this timing makes sense

20:27:38 aeth Someone must've finally vibe-rewritten legacy Symbolics stuff.

20:29:03 dlowe I was thinking it

20:47:16 Pixel_Outlaw Joined late, I assume the discussion is the release of Genera for non-commercial use?

20:50:05 Pixel_Outlaw Wonder who is even using "Portable Genera"...

20:55:58 palter Symbolics Technologies owns the rights.

22:26:09 JohnCowan i have reasons (which I can't talk about ) to think otherwise

23:59:08 Lord_of_Life_ ** NICK Lord_of_Life

1:30:13 palter And I have reasons to know that Symbolics Technologies has the rights.

1:54:40 brokkoli_originl ** NICK brokkoli_origin

5:38:41 jackdaniel on one hand it is cool that genera is refreshed and made legally available (I assume that it is unless some substantial claim is made public); on another hand LLM claims sound like a desperate marketing lie and (for now) it is a not yet available for try without some application process

5:42:52 jackdaniel on the third hand, I like the simplicity of the landing page :)