libera/#commonlisp - IRC Chatlog

22:27:25 Inline_ ** NICK Inline

0:33:54 svm ** NICK msv

2:26:47 jmercouris Is there a way to rename a symbol via Sly/Slime?

2:26:52 jmercouris like some sort of "refactor" name function

2:50:21 ColinRobinson ** NICK JuanDaugherty

3:13:34 JuanDaugherty ** NICK ColinRobinson

3:32:56 ColinRobinson ** NICK JuanDaugherty

3:46:34 JuanDaugherty ** NICK ColinRobinson

3:53:16 clothespin does jackdaniel hang out on this channel?

3:56:40 beach jmercouris: Symbols can't be renamed.

3:57:13 beach clothespin: Yes, as you can see if you use completion in your IRC client.

3:57:23 beach clothespin: Or you can type /names

3:58:03 beach clothespin: But unless the child is preventing him from sleeping again, he probably won't be here for another few hours.

3:58:03 clothespin that's nice beach, but some people remain logged in to a channel for months even years without using it

3:58:59 beach clothespin: Oh, I see. For that, you can go to irclog.tymoon.eu and do a search for jackdaniel. Then you will see when he was around last.

3:59:17 clothespin or i could have just asked

4:00:01 beach I am giving you (and others who read this) hints for the future.

4:02:15 beach jmercouris: But perhaps that is not what you meant, and instead perhaps you wanted to substitute a different variable or function name in source code?

4:03:19 jmercouris I want to change a variable name in the source code

4:03:30 jmercouris in all places where it is referenced and relevant

4:03:51 beach jmercouris: Since Emacs+SLIME/Sly do not analyze the role of symbols, you can't really do this in general with the current tools.

4:04:12 jmercouris I see

4:05:14 beach Like you may have a name that is used both as a global and a local function, or both as a variable and just a symbol name, or both as a function and a variable, and our current setup does not distinguish between them.

4:06:09 beach Say, (LET ((LIST (LIST A B C))) ...). Our current tools don't distinguish between the two LIST occurrences.

4:08:25 beach But we are (slowly) working on tools that will make such analyses possible.

4:09:41 beach So the best thing you can do now is to use Emacs QUERY-REPLACE family of commands.

4:22:52 beach For a highly dynamic language such as Common Lisp, such analyses are much harder to accomplish that for a static language with a fixed grammar. The grammar of Common Lisp is not fixed, neither at the character level (because of reader macros) nor at the S-expression level (because of macros), and tools must take this fact into account.

4:30:44 ColinRobinson ** NICK JuanDaugherty

4:42:18 JuanDaugherty ** NICK ColinRobinson

7:29:17 jackdaniel clothespin: what's up?