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10:52:49
rainthree
https://adeht.org/dump/vid-2022-03-07T1352.mp4 scymtym: what libraries and/or approaches would you recommend for doing web pages in common lisp? (when such a necessity arises...)
11:00:17
scymtym
rainthree: i guess it depends on the use-case. but it seems you are mistaking me for _death who is probably the creator of that demo
11:10:49
rainthree
I like reblocks (weblocks) a bit but I don't know why I felt it is a bit messy with all that logging spreaded all over the code (couldn't find an easy way to turn it off), and package-inferred-system. I saw this clog demo and I am not sure how good it is performance-wise (responsiveness-wise) http://clogpower.com
11:19:27
rainthree
clobber as the database, since it proved quite stable in my experiments (in which I evolved classes, by adding/removing slots and methods, as the application evolved)
16:26:50
scymtym
this is not ready for general consumption but we thougth we could report our progress for second climacs once in a while: https://scymtym.github.io/content/second-climacs-9.ogv and https://scymtym.github.io/content/second-climacs-9.mp4 (not sure which format will work better)
17:21:38
craigbro
the parsed dep tracking is impressive. It brings alot of capabitlies that LSPs bring that were not possible with the text + repl interfaces
17:59:54
beach
craigbro: Me and scymtym have a long history of me doing a half-assed attempt at something that I think is kind of OK, and then scymtym spends an order or magnitude more work to do it right, which I hadn't imagined was even necessary.
17:59:55
beach
The half-assed SICL reader turned into Eclector. The half-assed Clouseau inspect turned into a great CLIM-based inspector (with the same name), and the incremental parsing technique I designed for Second Climacs (presented at ELS) turned out to be way more involved, so scymtym again did it right.
18:03:15
craigbro
beach: tell me you were a PI at a university without telling me you were a PI at university
18:04:14
craigbro
I am digging into SICL as I re-acquaint myself with CL after a decade away, it's a compelling project
18:13:49
bike
at least in the US, usually meaning the head of an academic lab, with grad student minions
18:57:20
dbotton
raintree CLOG is as responsive as any framework (more so for interactive apps) it as about your design choices, when designing "web pages" you approach the design by using Lisp tools you normal use for web pages and just "attach" to elements you need interactivity too.