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21:05:27 lisp123 Anybody use CMUCL on MacOS?

21:11:17 Lord_of_Life_ ** NICK Lord_of_Life

21:31:21 rotateq did you also try CCL, lisp123?

21:33:32 lisp123 rotateq: Yes, I got that working. My brain hurted trying to install CMUCL so I gave up

21:34:18 rotateq as long as you don't think it's just about you

21:34:32 rotateq i mean that it didn't work out yet

21:37:10 lisp123 rotateq: Perhaps. Next up is LispWorks if I can save up enough money to try it out (outside of the Personal Edition), and perhaps AllegroCL too

21:38:24 lisp123 My goal is to have them all nicely installed, then switch between each in Emacs with (setq inferior-lisp-program ....)

21:38:24 rotateq as you like it

21:38:46 rotateq i see, but don't hop around too much

21:39:06 lisp123 Indeed :) I'm just procrastinating, better get back to something more productive

21:39:26 rotateq like getting to know the thing itself better :)

21:40:21 rotateq even wanting to be aware of the things *one* of the main implementations provide is immense

21:40:50 rotateq and ACL and LW then come with so much stuff on top

21:41:42 lisp123 That would be a productive idea :P

21:41:53 rotateq just random thoughts of mine

21:41:57 rotateq as always

21:43:17 rotateq and you don't have to use the commercial ones to offer paid work

21:44:38 lisp123 Yes

21:46:19 rotateq you have luck if your customer is getting what you tell him why you choose the thing itself in contrast to most competitors, trusts you and says "OK". so you don't have to tell him even more "oh and because of this and that better this implementation"

21:47:12 lisp123 Most customers I guess wouldn't care what language is used

21:47:25 rotateq this can be stated in short if real user documentation is provided

21:48:18 rotateq right, because they don't have an overview, so trust is of much worthness (you could tell them basically anything)

21:48:39 lisp123 I guess they pay the developer to choose something appropriate

21:50:38 rotateq yes the payment will include that you do it to your best believing (justified by clear facts and some metrics). and thinking in the long run

21:51:42 lisp123 Indeed

21:53:15 rotateq that kind of freedom often goes hand in hand with confidence, and confidence is grown by experience and experience is grown by practice

21:54:23 lisp123 Hardest part is getting the customers, but we are going off topic now :)

21:54:33 rotateq yes

21:55:01 rotateq I think you're maybe about going to sleep.

21:55:18 lisp123 You read my mind, nights :)