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14:00:08
lisp123
Just want to know if its possible (if so, I'll figure it out) without _too_ much work, but is it possible to have scrollbars like in Modern interfaces, where its hidden unless one activates scrolling?
14:34:58
jackdaniel
I can think of a few ways to do that but I don't think that any meets the "without too much work" criteria
14:35:43
jackdaniel
n.b I've read a few quite convincing posts that argue that hiding scroll bars is an ux stepback
15:07:35
scymtym_
most recent UI paradigm changes seem to cater to casual usage. so i wouldn't say a step back per se, but a step back for complex use cases
15:08:24
scymtym_
(same with programming languages, where the ability to pick up a language quickly seems to be the most important aspect nowadays)
15:44:41
jdz
I really dislike an always-visible scroll bar in a terminal. Mostly because I almost never use it. But in the terminal I use (the one from Elementary OS) the part of the scroll bar that indicates current position appears (fades in) whenever there is an output (or when scrolling manually using keyboard), and the full scroll bar appears when using mouse.
17:01:27
jackdaniel
bounidng rectangles are immutable except for when they are mutable, that's how I'd sum up the specification :)
18:39:17
jackdaniel
we have output-record-{start,end}-position - is it reasonable to interpret output-record-fixed-position as the opposite?
18:39:38
jackdaniel
the output record has either relative coordinates (and start/end position) or absolute coordinates