10:56:11scymtymrainthree: i would consider the drawing operations and cursor inside a table cell (and therefore table row and column) to be performed on a "virtual" page and therefore not meaningful with respect to normal stream coordinates since everything may be adjusted afterwards
10:57:10scymtymbut the formatting-{table,row,column,cell} macros return output records which you can stash away while formatting. maybe the bounds of those output records contain the information you need?