libera/#clim - IRC Chatlog

14:34:58 jackdaniel I can think of a few ways to do that but I don't think that any meets the "without too much work" criteria

14:35:41 lisp123 jackdaniel: No worries, no big deal. Was just something I was thinking

14:35:43 jackdaniel n.b I've read a few quite convincing posts that argue that hiding scroll bars is an ux stepback

14:36:16 lisp123 I used to think that, but I've gotten used to it I guess

15:07:35 scymtym_ most recent UI paradigm changes seem to cater to casual usage. so i wouldn't say a step back per se, but a step back for complex use cases

15:08:24 scymtym_ (same with programming languages, where the ability to pick up a language quickly seems to be the most important aspect nowadays)

15:10:23 beach Sad.

15:44:41 jdz I really dislike an always-visible scroll bar in a terminal. Mostly because I almost never use it. But in the terminal I use (the one from Elementary OS) the part of the scroll bar that indicates current position appears (fades in) whenever there is an output (or when scrolling manually using keyboard), and the full scroll bar appears when using mouse.

17:01:27 jackdaniel bounidng rectangles are immutable except for when they are mutable, that's how I'd sum up the specification :)

18:39:17 jackdaniel we have output-record-{start,end}-position - is it reasonable to interpret output-record-fixed-position as the opposite?

18:39:38 jackdaniel the output record has either relative coordinates (and start/end position) or absolute coordinates