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15:13:39
yitzi
In addition to already using the asdf groveler to extract the source files for clasp-cleavir, now I've managed to extend that to automatically initializing the immutable system list for asdf.
15:53:51
drmeister
I'll give a demo in 10 minutes for a small workflow that Heidi (another potential tutorial/workflow developer) gave me.
17:46:31
drmeister
yitzi: Is this statement correct these days? Academic software (eg: Ambertools, VMD, Chimera) that is supported by federal funding doesn't appear to use github because with github there isn't any way of registering users and tracking registered users. Funding agencies like to see lists of registered users because they use this info to allocate funding to projects that have lots of registered users.
17:47:42
drmeister
AmberTools has a conda install - that does ask you to accept a license. At the Amber developers meeting they quoted ~ 600,000 AmberTools conda installs.
17:48:28
yitzi
Hmmm... I don't know about that. I don't recall being required to accept the license in the conda installation.
17:49:30
drmeister
Download statistics are good. Registered users with email addresses and University names is better.
17:51:17
yitzi
Nope, no license acceptance screen. Unless they are using some kind of telemetry inside conda.
17:51:36
drmeister
At the Amber dev conference they put up the registered user statistics - these are the ones that register through the amber web site and download the tar ball.
17:52:18
yitzi
Which is not the same thing as the conda install since it gets the tarball from conda-forge.
17:53:07
drmeister
The 15,000 registered users seemed to be the more valuable statistic. The conda installs include an unknown number of automated installs.
17:59:17
drmeister
A lot of this scientific software grew up before github - I wonder how funding agencies will perceive github download statistics.
18:00:49
yitzi
Here: https://github.com/clasp-developers/homebrew-clasp/pkgs/container/clasp%2Fcando
18:01:03
drmeister
In other news. I wrote small demo for Heidi (a computational chemistry professor who wants to build tutorials for cando for undergraduate education). I fixed a couple of cando problems and I'm still fixing more. I'll (1) push these changes to cando (2) add the demo to cando-demos and push it and then tomorrow she and everyone else will have access to it.
18:03:09
yitzi
Correct. For homebrew. For the debian/ubuntu/arch I have no info unless you extract it from the thirdlaw web server. No idea if there is a way to serve ubuntu packages out of GItHub packages
18:06:45
yitzi
I'm getting ready to make an attempt at an "eclasp" (extension clasp) image step. I am probably gonna try with just seqan-clasp first.
19:03:34
drmeister
yitzi: Do you have a bit of time to help me set up the source code for development?
19:03:57
drmeister
So that my development cando source code overrides the homebrew installed source code.
21:09:11
drmeister
I'm building my local main again and then I'll run the new demo and then push the changes.
21:09:56
drmeister
yitzi: Your recent changes now force a nightly build of cando if I push to cando - correct?