libera/#clasp - IRC Chatlog

16:01:53 drmeister How about keep a virtual machine version updated or hash the virtual machine instruction descriptions and use that as a fingerprint for the vm fasls?

16:07:52 bike yeah, i mean that's what the version number is supposed to be for. some automation for it might be a good idea.

16:08:12 bike but that wouldn't catch other aspects of obsolete fasls, like if we undefine some internal function that a macro expands into

16:08:42 bike since the virtual machine doesn't know about that stuff

16:16:21 bike some automation would _definitely_ be a good idea, actually, if we can pull it off

16:17:21 drmeister ::notify yitzi On zeus the apptainer build has fully broken again. I'm setting it up to do everything right up to ninja build and then I'll poke around. conda isn't installed at that point - do you have any other insight why it might be broken and sometimes work?

16:17:21 Colleen drmeister: Got it. I'll let yitzi know as soon as possible.

16:17:40 drmeister This is so frustrating. I thought container builds were all about reproducibility.

16:37:06 drmeister All the header files are in /usr/include/c++/12 and the compiler is looking in /usr/include/c++

16:37:37 bike i think it looks recursively?

16:37:48 bike anyway - if you didn't see the google chat - i have the planner writing out derivatives now. if you want something else to look at for a bit

16:47:53 drmeister I need to get a big run going on the cluster and apptainer is a pain in the @ss

16:48:13 drmeister All of a sudden it goes from being totally reliable to this.

16:48:40 drmeister The clasp build was working last week so I'm doing partial apptainer builds for clasp and cando and then check what is different.

16:48:53 drmeister If clang is supposed to look recursively then it isn't.

16:51:28 drmeister If that's the problem then I'll dig into that.

16:52:48 drmeister These roadblocks keep getting thrown up in front of me.

16:53:26 drmeister I can't develop the spiroligomer design stuff if I can't run on the cluster because I need the data from the cluster run to work on clustering and connecting spiroligomer parts together.

16:53:38 drmeister I can't run on the cluster if I can't get apptainer to work.

16:57:24 drmeister Ubuntu arbitrarily drops support for "kinetic whatever" for "lunar whatsit" and then I have to spend days trying to figure out what is broken with their damn packaging.

16:57:58 drmeister And you try googling for this stuff. Just try. You get 20 years of "I can't install xxx on yyy".

17:20:39 drmeister Here's a difference...

17:20:59 drmeister The clasp apptainer clang++ searches these directories and the cando apptainer clang++ does not.

17:21:01 drmeister https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/mY6XC8bo/

17:21:19 drmeister The first three are the ones I need