libera/#clasp - IRC Chatlog

17:20:56 drmeister_ I think I write a lisp file that loads all the repos

17:21:22 drmeister_ Or add them one at a time and then persist it.

17:23:30 yitzi So were you able to generate the dist folder?

17:42:16 drmeister_ Not yet.

17:42:22 drmeister_ Meetings.

17:42:37 drmeister_ I wrote this - I think it will setup quickclasp using redist

17:42:39 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9EPdF948/

17:42:42 drmeister_ What do you think?

17:43:43 yitzi Seems ok. You want to me try locally?

17:44:01 drmeister_ I'm doing this from a quickclasp account on www.thirdlaw.tech

17:44:07 yitzi nontrivial-gray-streams needs to be there also

17:44:18 drmeister_ Right.

17:44:22 yitzi Yes, but I could try to generate on my machine. Won't hurt

17:47:13 yitzi All of those addresses should probably end in .git

17:48:27 drmeister_ There's no REDIST package - it's "ORG.SHIRAKUMO.REDIST"?

17:50:17 drmeister_ Apparently

17:50:44 yitzi Maybe add a defpackage and use a nickname?

17:54:16 drmeister_ I have a dist directory now.

17:59:19 drmeister_ I think I connected it to the webserver.

17:59:43 drmeister_ Should I remove my old quickclasp dist and add it again on some remote system?

17:59:52 drmeister_ trivial-gray-streams should be available.

18:00:05 yitzi nontrivial

18:00:32 yitzi nontrivial-gray-streams, not trivial-gray-streams

18:00:53 yitzi What did you script end up looking like?

18:03:39 drmeister_ Nontrivial is what I meant sorry.

18:04:08 stassats` there's now nontrivial gray streams?

18:04:32 yitzi Yes. Thanks to me.

18:04:41 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/SV4bidpC/

18:04:49 stassats` it was so great when everything in cl was trivial

18:05:01 stassats` trivial-this, trival-that

18:05:03 yitzi The name is somewhat of a joke.

18:05:29 drmeister_ Now quickclasp is broken and I have to figure out how to get it to work.

18:05:37 yitzi But, it exposes extensions to Gray streams also...and adds feature words.

18:06:07 drmeister_ In cracauer's pub directory there was a symbolic link `ln -s ~selwyn/quickclasp/ quickclasp`

18:06:18 yitzi And avoids subclassing the implementation's fundamental-stream classes.

18:06:21 drmeister_ Now there isn't a ~quickclasp/quickclasp directory

18:06:28 drmeister_ There is a ~quickclasp/dist directory

18:06:33 drmeister_ So I pointed the link at that.

18:06:43 yitzi That is where it is supposed to be

18:07:05 yitzi I think

18:07:11 drmeister_ However, there used to be a ~selwyn/quickclasp/quickclasp.txt - that file doesn't exist anymore.

18:07:28 stassats` interestingly, sbcl dispatches pathname on streams, but just does nothing for gray streams

18:07:36 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Uw0Hvu8N/

18:07:46 drmeister_ distinfo.lisp releases sources

18:07:52 drmeister_ Those are the files there now.

18:08:17 yitzi stassats`: I've add that to ECL, ABCL and Clasp. I haven't written a patch for SBCL yet.

18:08:37 drmeister_ Then there is the puzzle of what to do instead of `(ql-dist:install-dist “http://quickclasp.thirdlaw.tech/quickclasp/quickclasp.txt”)`

18:08:44 drmeister_ Any ideas, anyone?

18:09:11 yitzi Just “http://quickclasp.thirdlaw.tech/quickclasp/"?

18:09:15 stassats` use the right quotes?

18:09:21 yitzi hehe

18:09:45 drmeister_ There is this...

18:09:47 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/T79kP0Ef/

18:11:51 yitzi Whats in the /dist directory?

18:14:47 yitzi Ok.....I think you need to include releases

18:16:01 yitzi So maybe `(ql-dist:install-dist "http://quickclasp.thirdlaw.tech/quickclasp/releases/quickclasp.txt")`

18:16:09 yitzi Unless you moved stuff aournd

18:19:12 drmeister_ I changed the symbolic link to point to ~quickclasp/dist/releases/

18:19:17 drmeister_ Now I get this far...

18:19:19 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jwUZdasQ/

18:20:15 drmeister_ That file exists....

18:20:16 drmeister_ -rw-r--r-- 1 quickclasp quickclasp 4229 Mar 14 17:52 dist/releases/quickclasp/2024.03.14-17.52.40/releases.txt

18:20:22 drmeister_ So what the heck?

18:20:25 drmeister_ Permissions?

18:20:48 drmeister_ These are being served by an http server.

18:21:42 yitzi http://quickclasp.thirdlaw.tech/quickclasp/quickclasp/2024.03.14-17.52.40/

18:22:52 yitzi There is two "quickclasp" segments

18:22:53 drmeister_ Too many quickclasps?

18:23:49 drmeister_ Now

18:23:49 drmeister_ https://quickclasp.thirdlaw.tech/quickclasp/2024.03.14-17.52.40/

18:28:35 drmeister_ I'm having trouble adding nontrivial-gray-streams. - the whole point of this exercise.

18:30:26 yitzi Its not in the list at the url you gave

18:31:07 drmeister_ It's in here...

18:31:08 drmeister_ https://quickclasp.thirdlaw.tech/quickclasp/2024.03.14-17.52.40/systems.txt

18:31:10 yitzi I think you need to go back to the double quickclasp url and change the url you told redist about in your script file

18:32:02 drmeister_ This?

18:32:03 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/SiZEPkdh/

18:32:05 drmeister_ To what?

18:32:31 yitzi Add quickclasp/ at the end

18:34:19 yitzi And change the redirect back

18:35:31 drmeister_ Back to what?

18:36:05 drmeister_ Ok

18:36:13 drmeister_ `sudo ln -s ~quickclasp/dist/releases quickclasp`

18:36:18 drmeister_ Now...

18:36:27 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/LTnd6XIM/

18:36:56 drmeister_ #$&#($*&@%

18:36:57 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/vpnbl4o0/

18:37:24 drmeister_ Any ideas?

18:37:51 yitzi That url is still wrong

18:38:49 yitzi Can I call?

18:40:08 drmeister_ Sure

18:47:07 drmeister_ I got rid of the //

18:47:15 drmeister_ I rebuilt everything and I'm still getting this.

18:47:16 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9mzI34r0/

18:47:56 drmeister_ This is the symbolic link `lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 30 Mar 14 18:35 quickclasp -> /home/quickclasp/dist/releases`

18:48:01 drmeister_ Permissions?

18:59:02 drmeister_ I do have this file: /home/meister/quicklisp/dists/quickclasp/software/nontrivial-gray-streams-aaf3b6b4d5c0639e78e579f13b1e042c721f7bdd/nontrivial-gray-streams.asd

19:00:18 drmeister_ Class took less time to prep for than I thought.

19:00:44 drmeister_ What is this directory? `/usr/home/quickclasp/dist/sources/nontrivial-gray-streams/nontrivial-gray-streams.asd`. There is no `/usr/home/`

19:03:26 bike what? why would there not be?

19:03:26 bike that's just quickclasp's home directory, no?

19:06:56 stassats` why not /home?

19:08:23 bike dunno. but i'm on the system and there's a /usr/home/

19:08:45 bike and /home/ is a symlink to it, apparently

19:15:00 drmeister_ Ok

19:15:32 drmeister_ So, yes, there is a /usr/home

19:16:17 drmeister_ So this is a path on www.thirdlaw.tech then.

19:16:36 drmeister_ ls /usr/home/quickclasp/dist/sources/nontrivial-gray-streams/nontrivial-gray-streams.asd -> /usr/home/quickclasp/dist/sources/nontrivial-gray-streams/nontrivial-gray-streams.asd

19:16:40 drmeister_ So, yes, it's there.

19:18:48 drmeister_ This is the contents of the tgz file on www.thirdlaw.tech

19:18:49 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/JibncRxo/

19:18:56 drmeister_ Should it be an absolute path?

19:20:20 yitzi I was able get it work on a localhost http server

19:25:37 yitzi drmeister_: ^

19:25:37 drmeister_ Wow - ok. how?

19:26:05 yitzi I didn't put any subdirectories in the web server url.

19:26:17 yitzi Let me paste so stuff

19:27:05 yitzi Heres the config file. I called the dist "wibble" https://plaster.tymoon.eu/view/4191#4191

19:27:53 yitzi Then I started a web server in ~/dist/releases with python3 -m http.server 8080

19:28:14 yitzi Adding the distribution was with ` (ql-dist:install-dist "http://localhost:8080/wibble.txt")`

19:29:31 yitzi So basically, I would reconfig the webserver so it's base url is just `http://quickclasp.thirdlaw.tech`

19:29:39 yitzi Make sense?

19:33:21 drmeister_ Hmm, there is a problem doing that. We have a redirect for www.thirdlaw.tech

19:33:43 yitzi Why is the quickclasp domain needed then?

19:35:56 drmeister_ We have www.thirdlaw.tech - it redirects to www.thirdlawtx.com

19:36:15 drmeister_ We have quicklisp.thirdlaw.tech/quicklisp/

19:36:41 bike do we have quickclasp.thirdlaw.tech redirect to thirdlawtx? i didn't think we did.

19:37:41 drmeister_ How did we work this then?

19:38:21 yitzi I think the quickclasp directory just got left over from when there was no quickclasp domain

19:39:21 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Neg6oTTl/

19:39:37 drmeister_ That's where we have quickclasp.thirdlaw.tech

19:41:52 yitzi Yes, but the point of a subdomain is to avoid http://quickclasp.thirdlaw.tech/quickclasp

19:42:03 yitzi and replace with http://quickclasp.thirdlaw.tech/

19:42:28 yitzi Which would map to the quickclasp directory behind the scenes

19:46:47 yitzi I'll try it locally with a subdirectory.

19:52:10 yitzi That still worked

19:53:01 yitzi drmeister_: Is the quickclasp subdirectory a link? And where does it point to?

20:15:36 drmeister_ We have eliminated the subdirectory link.

20:16:01 drmeister_ Now I'm trying things without it.

20:16:30 drmeister_ ACTION removes his forehead from one wall and starts pounding on another.

20:19:30 drmeister_ Here's my script.

20:19:32 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GcleWzSM/

20:20:20 yitzi ok

20:20:26 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/CDTiuEtU/

20:20:35 drmeister_ So that much works...

20:21:12 drmeister_ Bleh

20:21:14 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BIGurMhi/

20:21:29 drmeister_ So, what the forking fork is going on?

20:21:45 yitzi hold on

20:22:31 yitzi I think the urls are still wrong.

20:23:46 yitzi err maybe not...just a sec

20:25:50 yitzi It doesn't like links.

20:26:06 yitzi Look at line 11 in your paste

20:26:33 drmeister_ I'm on zeus.

20:26:52 drmeister_ It's failing because it's literally trying to `(probe-file #P"/usr/home/quickclasp/dist/sources/nontrivial-gray-streams/nontrivial-gray-streams.asd")`

20:26:55 yitzi The link is clearly geting resolve in the release metadata

20:27:02 drmeister_ And `/usr/home/...` doesn't exist

20:27:53 drmeister_ I am doing it in slime, I have a backtrace.

20:29:50 yitzi Look in /2024.03.14-20.28.44/releases.txt

20:31:09 yitzi And also the systems.txt

20:31:25 drmeister_ This file exists `/home/meister/quicklisp/dists/quickclasp/software/nontrivial-gray-streams-aaf3b6b4d5c0639e78e579f13b1e042c721f7bdd/nontrivial-gray-streams.asd`

20:31:28 drmeister_ Looking

20:32:56 drmeister_ I only have this...

20:32:57 drmeister_ ./dist/releases/quickclasp/2024.03.14-20.18.06/releases.txt

20:33:55 yitzi yes

20:34:04 yitzi There should be a systems.txt next to it.

20:34:08 yitzi Whats in it?

20:34:41 drmeister_ What's in releases.txt or systems.txt?

20:35:07 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ktMlJcJm/

20:35:27 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jVIdTmtD/

20:35:36 drmeister_ What's in yours?

20:35:46 yitzi Same stuff.

20:36:03 yitzi Do a text search in the dist directory and look for "/usr/home"

20:36:16 yitzi No wait!

20:36:28 yitzi Your releases.txt is wrong!

20:36:31 drmeister_ Ok.

20:36:50 yitzi You have "usr/home/quickclasp/dist/sources/cl-bqplot/cl-bqplot/cl-bqplot.asd"

20:36:56 yitzi I'll paste mine

20:36:59 drmeister_ Yeah - what do you have?

20:37:42 yitzi https://plaster.tymoon.eu/view/4192#4192

20:38:08 yitzi I think the file system links are getting resolved.

20:38:10 drmeister_ Your's are relativish.

20:38:24 drmeister_ Mine are absolute.

20:38:36 yitzi A hack might be to just remove all your absolute links

20:38:45 drmeister_ I'm on FreeBSD - is that messing with us?

20:39:31 yitzi No. I think it is because Clasp resolves links in truename

20:39:47 yitzi Or somewhere

20:39:55 drmeister_ But I'm building this in sbcl.

20:40:20 yitzi Ok. There then.

20:40:32 yitzi They may have never assumed the folder was linked

20:40:49 yitzi I'd just get rid of `/usr/home/quickclasp/dist/sources/uuid/`, etc. and try again

20:41:07 yitzi In the releases.txt file.

20:41:09 yitzi Make sense?

20:41:21 drmeister_ As in hand edit it?

20:41:53 yitzi Yep

20:41:55 drmeister_ And what folder is linked? I don't think we have anything linked anymore.

20:42:10 drmeister_ And the link was in the webserver directories.

20:42:13 yitzi I think your home folder is

20:42:25 yitzi On the FreeBSD server

20:43:36 drmeister_ On the freebsd system home directories are in /usr/home/**

20:43:45 drmeister_ And there is a symbolic link from /home to /usr/home

20:44:01 drmeister_ I don't dare touch that stuff because it's system directories.

20:44:27 drmeister_ Could redist be generating absolute pathnames accidentally?

20:49:51 yitzi It could be.

20:50:11 yitzi I can try reproducing on BSD vm tomorrow

20:50:26 yitzi I really would try manually editing the file for now

20:50:38 drmeister_ Ok, got it figured out.

20:51:20 drmeister_ It's a PITA. I have to delete most of the absolute path and just leave what is relative to the path on my machine.

20:52:03 drmeister_ Here's what it looks like now.

20:52:14 yitzi Worse case we come up with a sed command

20:52:22 drmeister_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GbGwZ3Mz/

20:53:06 yitzi Yep. No remove and re-add on the client.

20:53:38 stassats` can't you convince your web server to follow symlinks?

20:54:05 yitzi Its not the web server

20:54:21 yitzi Its the software generating the quicklisp dist files.

20:54:57 yitzi The absolute file paths on the server are getting encoded into those files.

20:59:44 drmeister_ Yeah - it looks like a bug in redist, or sbcl possibly some kind of interaction with FreeBSD.

21:00:06 drmeister_ Since I'm the only person who writes 100% bug free software - I can say that.

21:00:29 cracauer Both Clasp and SBCL resolve to absolute paths expanding symlinks.

21:01:44 drmeister_ There shouldn't be any symlinks when `redist` builds this stuff. The symlinks were just a side-show with the web server and how it pointed to the quickclasp generated directory.

21:02:12 yitzi Did it work?

21:02:37 drmeister_ It's wherever `redist` generates the data structures that get written into releases.txt

21:02:43 drmeister_ yitzi: Yes, it's working now.

21:03:08 yitzi Bout time.

21:03:19 drmeister_ I hand edited the releases.txt file and removed most of each absolute path and then deleted quickclasp on my local system and reinstalled it and then it works!

21:04:28 yitzi I'll look for the bug in redist later tonight

21:17:42 drmeister_ Thank you.