libera/#clasp - IRC Chatlog

13:57:12 bike i'm basing fdefns off of funcallable instances. FuncallableInstance has a simple fun, but also has a bunch of entry_point_# functions. do those need to be defined or is the simple fun enough?

14:11:50 bike looks like i do need them, since the xep setup refers to them

15:48:41 drmeister Hello everyone.

15:48:58 drmeister apptainer builds are working again.

15:49:32 drmeister I think there are serious conflicts between llvm and gnu on the latest Ubuntu

15:57:52 drmeister ::notify yitzi Are you running with both Apple Silicon and X86 homebrew installed at the same time? I'm exclusively X86 and I'm afraid to touch Apple Silicon while I'm actively developing.

15:57:52 Colleen drmeister: Got it. I'll let yitzi know as soon as possible.

16:00:53 drmeister Also, I'm really interested in knowing if it's faster.

16:07:03 drmeister bike: I'm trying to build cando on my Mac and I hit that Unkown opcode thing again.

16:07:09 drmeister I'm clearing out every buffer I can think of.

16:07:47 drmeister So `~/.cache/common-lisp/*` `~/.emacs.d/elpa/slimexxx/fasl/*`, the build directory.

16:07:56 drmeister Are there any other places that fasl files can hide?

16:08:30 drmeister I'll run `find . -name '*.fasl'` on the development directory

16:13:09 drmeister Removed everything else I found (just a few odds and ends) - building now.

16:13:09 bike can you trace the load process to see what fasl it is? like just have it print out what it's loading

16:13:35 drmeister Do we have an option for that?

16:13:38 bike i still don't even know what you're doing that results in this error. like, is this when booting clasp? loading some system? slime?

16:14:05 drmeister While building scando - so starting cando.

16:16:17 drmeister If it happens this time I'll start cando and it will fail while starting up.

16:16:34 drmeister I'll need to print every fasl that we load while starting up - do we have an option for that?

16:20:32 bike during startup? i am not sure

16:20:47 bike but if you plug in udb after CLASP_PAUSE_STARTUP maybe you can at least get the filename from the backtrace

16:25:18 drmeister Ok, no problems. After cleaning everything I could find out and rebuilding the problem went away.

16:25:48 drmeister I am setting off a lot of false alarms lately.

16:28:55 drmeister The difference in startup time on the Mac for scando vs cando is huge.

16:29:03 drmeister scando starts in 5 seconds

16:29:10 drmeister cando starts in 1m3s

16:30:01 drmeister I'm curious how quickly M1 scando starts up. Without the translation step it should be faster.

17:48:29 yitzi ping

17:48:29 Colleen yitzi: drmeister said 1 hour, 50 minutes ago: Are you running with both Apple Silicon and X86 homebrew installed at the same time? I'm exclusively X86 and I'm afraid to touch Apple Silicon while I'm actively developing.

17:49:04 yitzi drmeister: I have both installed

21:29:16 bike will unbound<Whatever_O>() always be the same thing? i'm trying to use it in a CAS

21:34:43 bike nevermind, it doesn't matter