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9:23:06
Nilby
I feel like all this harware that makes things hard is actually crap, there's a much better architecture, that doesn't have a bit width, and where we don't have to push electrons around so hard.
9:25:15
no-defun-allowed
Usually, eh, I don't mind it so much, but I took a peep at register allocation today, and x86-64 has a bit of what us software people might call "cruft". But if you have backwards compatibility with the original IBM PC, then cruft is what you get.
14:00:23
jcowan
In some domains there is no hope for "programmers". The original programmers were people who took code written in assembler by "analysts" and traanslated it into ones and zeros. Nobody does that any more, fortunately.
14:01:24
jackdaniel
and yet quality of that software banged with rocks was much more meticulus than many things written today
14:01:27
jcowan
Closer to our own time, who would write an LALR(1) parser nowadays without a yacc equivalent? Much better to write rules and semantic fragments.
14:01:57
jcowan
jackdaniel: It had to be, since "programmers" were cheeap and machine time was unbelievably expensive.
14:02:48
jcowan
The more skilled programmers become and the cheaper computers become, the more the emphasis shifts. Airplane embedded programming is still done very carefully.
14:13:06
splittist
ACTION predicts that by the time trivial-treeshaker is developed and adopted the average lisp implementation will fit in a single neoTCP packet
14:23:57
attila_lendvai
splittist, there's hu.dwim.perec ; it works pretty well with the postgresql backend
15:59:27
Josh_2
kinda hard to describe but right now I have had to write (ps:lisp (format stream "var ~A;" <my var>)) to get it to initialize the variable
16:16:31
Josh_2
https://plaster.tymoon.eu/view/2393#2393 here this is the code I'm basically trying to serialize a CL object into some javascript, store that under a variable name in a top level script which can be referenced in another part of my webpage
16:17:14
Josh_2
but I'm having to add that (ps:lisp (format ..)) in order to get var <variable-name>; to appear in the outputted JS, I'm trying to avoid that hackery
21:08:50
Josh_2
For each stib in stibs I'd expect output like https://plaster.tymoon.eu/view/2395#2395