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9:40:58
beach
no-defun-allowed: You can use floats for the report I guess, since no calculations are performed that will change the result.
9:41:35
jprajzne
maybe check the locale first and then obtain the correct format for the operating system?
9:41:50
no-defun-allowed
Well, I haven't declared any number types more specific than REAL, so I'm just adjusting to represent everything in cents.
9:43:08
beach
jprajzne: I am not so sure I would trust the operating system. Mine say "jeudi juillet 18" for today's date for instance.
9:43:52
beach
... which is no doubt a translation of Thursday July 18, except that in France, the date comes before the name of the month.
9:43:58
ck_
no-defun-allowed: mm that's pretty daring of you. For our consultancy, please authorize payment of 3+4i AUS
9:48:21
ck_
nine plus half five sounds like someone is reading a clock and taking timezone differences into account
9:51:14
ck_
Welcome to the wonderful world of locales. What would Sir like? LC_COLLATE? _CTYPE? _MESSAGES? _MONETARY? _NUMERIC?
9:51:20
beach
By the way, if you type "99 in Danish" to the Google search engine, you can see how it is spelled too.
9:53:17
beach
I believe you. I tried to set everything to US English using the GUI tools. But it doesn't take it into account.
9:58:04
no-defun-allowed
Oh, speaking of clomptroller, I have to present a prototype tomorrow, so I'm currently finishing off implementing my UI design.
9:58:40
jprajzne
thus if you have set something else than US format and this happens, it's a bug again
10:12:39
jprajzne
technically, there's been so much crap written that we should not be writing code anymore
10:13:18
ck_
There's the quote about the star developer who said he should be measured by the lines of code he could remove, not the ones he added
10:13:20
no-defun-allowed
Has anyone had any experience with cl-typesetting? I want to change the font to Computer Modern (I have the CMU family) but I'm not sure how PDF font names work.
10:14:04
no-defun-allowed
jprajzne: "In the old days, you would chastise people for reinventing the wheel. Now we beg, 'Oh, please, please reinvent the wheel.'" Though, this might be #lispcafe material.
10:18:03
no-defun-allowed
Oh, the names correspond to AFM files bundled with cl-pdf for some Adobe fonts.
10:25:20
moldybits
can (declare (ignore x)) help a compiler optimize code? or more specifically, does it ever happen in practice?
10:29:39
jackdaniel
it will help you to notice, that you've started using something you've declared as ignored
11:48:04
ebzzry
Using ASDF, is there a way to determine the name of the system that is currently being loaded?
12:34:17
beach
jprajzne: Not necessarily. If the existing software is written in an unsafe language, or in a language that makes the software difficult to maintain, or in a language that is not supported by some operating system we are thinking of, then writing a better version is justified.
12:35:31
jackdaniel
English term "reinventing the wheel" is terrible at what it tries to illustrate, because wheel was reinvented many times for many reasons (i.e we do not drive on wooden wheels)
12:37:51
jprajzne
beach: yes, in reality. but aside from that, if it was good to run in production, we should be able to reuse it
12:38:36
jprajzne
but i rarely see people taking implementation x and reusing it with much of writing new code somewhere else?
12:42:24
jackdaniel
oh, thank you, I didn't know that. next time I'll bring that up against the "wheels" instead of Polish idiom
13:06:42
flip768
just read https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/793253/6ff74ecfb804c410/, didn't know that C was already _that_ messy... Seems that writing things in C is only doable with -O0 now.
13:23:37
beach
dlowe: Me neither, or at least I don't think so. But I found several sites on the net claiming it is an idiom.
13:25:37
ck_
ACTION activates stopwatch to see at what point someone is checking google ngrams or equivalent
13:48:45
Xach
cron runs "screen -c daily.screenrc -dmS daily-build" and daily.screenrc runs sbcl with the right options.