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14:06:33
schweers
ignoring the issue of refering to the lexical environment: is it at all considered sane to gather code from various places (together with the &environment) and splice them together somewhere else?
14:07:36
beach
schweers: Not really. In Cleavir, we convert the code to ASTs (which no longer refers to the environment), and those ASTs are more easily combined.
14:08:41
shka
schweers: take a look at the metabang-bind source code to see reasonable way to handle this kind of stuff
14:09:05
beach
schweers: By interrogating the environment to see what the code means, and as a result, creating the AST that the code stands for. Macros and compiler macros are expanded so that no such expansion is required by further processing.
14:11:02
beach
shka: It is, though. If different code snippets are in different environment, you can't gather them without first removing the environment information.
14:12:03
shka
beach: yeah, but why you would want to gather code snippets from different envs if you are not trying to build something that is basicly a compiler?
14:12:23
schweers
shka: the amount of code would not depend on the size of the openstreetmap input. I just want to gather the pieces of code on what to do with a node (for instance). But, the more I think about it, the less feasable it seems, for various reasons
14:13:03
beach
shka: Clearly if code can refer to lexical variables in a parent, then the environment will be different for that code.
14:14:35
schweers
I know there is no /need/. I just wanted to know if it could be done, and what it would take.
14:16:03
schweers
so again, thanks alot for all your answers. you’ve helped me understand some things a little better.
14:23:14
steven___
i have a question about commonqt, this is mycode (:qt-superclass "QGraphicsEllipseItem"), but it running with error, how can i resolve it
14:44:08
scymtym_
Xach: i have fixed versions of cxml and xpath (bug fixes, fewer warnings) which i would like to push into sharplispers repositories. any objections or suggestions?
14:57:39
beach
ecraven: I am reading the OpenType specification from Microsoft, and I see what you mean by the complexity being intrinsic.
14:58:24
beach
It would be a great project to implement the different modules (APIs) in Common Lisp, though. I suspect it could be done incrementally.
15:00:40
beach
asarch: I would think that implementations other than CLISP would be able to do that.
15:02:06
beach
asarch: Oh, perhaps you mean Common Lisp? Then please do not use the abbreviation "Clisp", since it is the name of an implementation of Common Lisp. If you have to abbreviate Common Lisp, then use "CL".
15:03:00
asarch
Hi beach, nice to see you again. The main reason is actually to replace my TCSH scripts with some OOP-capable programming language and to learn how AI works :-)
15:05:15
beach
asarch: Sure. Then you should know that using those characters is not portable. They may not be part of the character set of every implementation.
15:07:00
asarch
I just was testing if I could use other characters than the Latin alphabet to name functions
15:10:38
Bike
it's the glorious future, i don't want to be stuck with what a bunch of cold war engineers thought language was
15:12:26
shka
schweers: hard to tell, but we are stuck with pre-80s technology and primitive economic model to back it
15:12:48
dim
Unicode for function and variable names is debatable, because in many cases there is more than one possible binary encoding for the same visual output, even without mentionning invisible space
15:13:17
dim
Here, the line just contains the https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/200B/index.htm
15:13:59
dim
well when you have unicode support for symbol names, you have to deal with that, I suppose
15:14:39
schweers
maybe I need to configure emacs in a way that any non ascii is highlighted, just in case
15:14:44
francogrex
Hi I have this, I put a break, optimize debug 3 yet no way to single step into the internal code... https://pastebin.com/EFLzz0be
15:22:35
oleo
so when you say you want to have the most verbose debug level then you set it to 3 and the others to 0 in order to get that
15:24:46
oleo
if you want as fast as possible speed then you have todo that on the expense of safety and debug and space
15:26:07
oleo
#.(declaim (optimize (safety 3) (debug 3) (space 0) (speed 0) (compilation-speed 0) (inhibit-warnings 0))
15:29:36
schweers
I know, I just never thought that optimizations should be set at that stage. This thought simply never crossed my mind.
15:30:28
schweers
exactly, the compiler, not the reader. But then again, one can compile at read time
15:31:55
francogrex
no unfortunately nothing works, even with optimization codes, can't go beyond the first few lines of the loop
15:32:08
oleo
that's where i end of thinking further cause i don't have experinece much with that level
16:15:44
makomo
contrapunctus: not me, but there's also this project/product which seems interesting https://wukix.com/mocl
16:25:09
jackdaniel
eql5-android worked fine for me when I was playing with it, there are quite a few examples in the source tree
16:44:22
jackdaniel
dto's games worked with sdl on the other hand. there is ecl's performance bottleneck with clos dispatch we plan to address *after* the upcoming release
19:29:13
skeuomorf
jackdaniel: Do you have any idea whether I can have a post as an HTML file that will be rendered as-is? Using coleslaw I mean
19:33:02
skeuomorf
jackdaniel: hmm https://github.com/kingcons/coleslaw/blob/master/src/content.lisp#L114
20:43:38
oleo
papachan: put the asdf source into /common-lisp/source build there and then try (require :asdf) (asdf:load-system :asdf)
20:52:19
oleo
had to find them all via find . type d -name sbcl-1.4.7-x64 -exec rm -rf {} \; and delete
1:38:32
skeuomorf
PuercoPop: It would be cool if the links to CSS files, images, ...etc are relative to the root instead of being tied directly to the domain
2:02:57
skeuomorf
PuercoPop: e.g. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/hakyll-3.2.7.1/docs/Hakyll-Web-Urls-Relativize.html
2:03:53
PuercoPop
skeuomorf: The themes are hardcoding the ${config.domain} as the prefix. You could set the domain in the .coleslawrc as the root URL of your blog
2:05:40
skeuomorf
PuercoPop: put another way, given index, I want to be able to navigate to everywhere else from it without being tied to the domain name, so that all the URLs are relative to index