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13:54:45 Xach win 3

13:55:33 splittist If I could just win 1 I would be happy. 3 seems like a tough ask.

13:56:21 flip214 at least 3 out of 30 coin throws? easy.

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16:50:01 mrSpec Hi! I've noticed that slime-who-calls doesnt work in CCL, when function is called inside method. Has anyone else noticed this? Can explain why? I created small testcase: http://lisp.pl/upload/test.tar.gz to reproduce: (ql:quickload :test) (in-package :test) M-x slime-who-calls test

16:51:43 mrSpec However sometimes it seems to work e.g. when I remove .cache and load test for the first time.

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17:14:22 ukari_ shimera, it seems that symbol-function can make (setf (symbol-function 'g) closure) return a function in lisp-2

17:20:35 beach Good evening everyone!

17:24:04 beach ukari_: [I am reading the logs] What is it that you are trying to do with SYMBOL-FUNCTION, etc?

17:26:54 ukari_ beach: few days ago, i talk with shinmera about “in lisp, variables name and functions name won't conflict even when they spells same”

17:27:38 beach Right, we say that they are in different "namespaces".

17:30:28 ukari_ lisp-1 and lisp-2,which one is better

17:30:49 Shinmera The one you like.

17:31:07 beach Oh dear. You are in an IRC dedicated to the Common Lisp language which is not a lisp-1, so you won't get an unbiased opinion here.

17:31:28 Shinmera Obviously though, lisp-2 is better because higher numbers are better :)

17:32:05 mtl_ I kinda wish CL was a lisp-1

17:32:10 Shinmera I don't.

17:32:23 mtl_ but oh well, not really a big deal, just have to use funcall occasionally

17:33:39 beach Here is my favorite Common Lisp pun (from McCLIM): (defmethod graft ((graft graft)) graft)

17:34:04 ukari_ i think funcall is not beauty if i treated lisp as a FP like erlang

17:34:07 Shinmera beach: I would also hate to miss beautiful bits of poetry from my code like (let ((location (location location))) ..)

17:34:24 beach Nice one, too!

17:34:52 beach ukari_: Again, this is a channel dedicated to Common Lisp.

17:35:43 ukari_ * sorry

17:38:05 switchp0rt I am new to lisps and currently using sbcl. I am looking for a good build/dependency manager, something like sbt/leiningen/cabal for managing a lisp project. any recommendations?

17:38:39 Shinmera switchp0rt: ASDF is the standard for project building and Quicklisp the standard for library distribution.

17:38:42 beach switchp0rt: I don't know what those do, but the "standard" for building things is ASDF.

17:38:44 shka switchp0rt: quicklisp + asdf

17:39:03 Shinmera switchp0rt: See http://reader.tymoon.eu/article/267 for an introduction.

17:39:26 beach switchp0rt: Also, it is best to install SLIME using Quicklisp.

17:39:34 switchp0rt is there a build file that handles all the installation of dependencies?

17:39:38 beach [since you are not yet using those tools]

17:39:51 switchp0rt beach: i am using slime install via spacemacs, seems to work okay

17:40:11 switchp0rt Shinmera thanks, i am checking that out now

17:40:35 beach switchp0rt: You need to distinguish between build and install. ASDF builds, Quicklisp installs.

17:41:12 switchp0rt beach okay, is there a configuration file that handles all of that? ie, asdf install, asdf build, asdf test, etc..

17:41:28 switchp0rt beach or am I thinking about it all wrong

17:41:42 beach switchp0rt: The .asd file is what controls dependencies, both on other systems and between files.

17:41:53 switchp0rt beach great! thank you

17:42:06 beach But it won't automatically call Quicklisp for installation of missing systems.

17:51:29 jdz but quicklisp will consult ASDF to install dependencies of a system

18:02:54 mordocai cgore: Hello stranger.

18:03:02 cgore yo

18:03:40 cgore I'm trying out a new IRC client instead of ERC in Emacs.

18:40:37 dim did you try rcirc (in Emacs too)?

18:41:53 cgore Never used that one.

18:42:03 cgore I'm using Textual.

18:42:25 cgore Seems okay.

18:42:56 cgore How's rcirc compare to ERC?

18:45:25 dim simpler, batteries not included, just works

18:45:55 dim well I've never used ERC myself, spent time setting up rcirc and that's all I've been using for a very long time now

18:47:24 cgore Cool, I might give it a shot sometime.

18:47:34 cgore Sometimes it's nice to have IRC in the editor.

18:47:44 cgore Especially for copying code back and forth.

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