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Saturday, 10th of August 2019, 14:14:49 UTC
14:24:14
scymtym
is the name final once the organization is created?
14:26:17
beach
It can always be removed and a new one created.
14:26:22
beach
There is nothing in it yet.
14:28:23
scymtym
i was going to say that, but then i realized that there would be a cost to renaming. initially a small one but increasing with actual use of the organization
14:30:16
scymtym
i had my share of name finding discussion and it was a nightmare every time. so i'm not sure how to proceed
14:31:15
beach
I'll give it some thought and suggest something.
14:31:21
beach
But it is painful for me.
14:32:04
scymtym
yeah, choosing names when multiple people are involved is the worst (despite everyone's best efforts)
14:32:05
beach
Bike and I found two good candidates for the ATS library though.
14:32:24
scymtym
yes, no complaints there
14:41:37
beach
Random suggestions: "Reclaiming Common Lisp" or "Reclaiming Lisp"
14:42:37
beach
As in, "bring waste land under cultivation". :)
14:43:57
beach
Or "to rescue from and undesirable state"
14:45:13
beach
Or "to regain possession of".
14:45:38
beach
Each of those definitions of "reclaim" is in some online dictionary.
14:48:28
heisig
Oh dear - naming things...
14:50:21
beach
I am just making random suggestions. Nothing I am particularly attached to.
14:50:37
scymtym
beach: i like it since some of the modules are providing machinery that is usually reserved for implementors to users as well as implementors
14:51:08
beach
Yes, that was part of the idea.
14:51:46
beach
Er, not as deep as yours though.
14:52:07
scymtym
it is also unspecific enough to accommodate a variety of modules
15:00:34
heisig
Hmm, 'reclaiming' sounds too militant for my taste, like we'd be fighting other tribes of programmers.
15:02:20
scymtym
knowing beach, it is probably 1/3 straightforward, 1/3 joke and 1/3 to annoy people who get annoyed by such things :)
15:02:58
shka_
isn't it about just modernized common lisp implementation?
15:03:50
beach
We are also addressing issues that have not been addressed in the past.
15:04:16
beach
Or that have been addressed in very ad-hoc and implementation-specific ways.
15:10:10
heisig
scymtym: I have sent you an invitation, too.
15:10:28
beach
I will continue thinking about names.
15:14:20
scymtym
heisig: thank you. do you know whether changing the name later is possible?
15:15:02
heisig
scymtym: Yes, changing the name later is possible.
15:15:21
scymtym
heisig: yeah, just found the option
15:19:57
beach
A milder possibility would be to reuse the title of a book I imagined I would write: Common Lisp for Language Implementers.
15:24:12
beach
Or Common Lisp Modules for Language Implementers. Not nearly as catchy, of course.
15:25:09
heisig
Heh, or 'Common Lisp in Small Pieces' :)
Sunday, 11th of August 2019, 2:14:49 UTC