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4:55:26
beach
drmeister: Wow, that's a fairly long discussion, and some people seem to have understood the point, too. Very unusual and very nice.
5:01:39
beach
I am very surprised that this document gets read. I had not expected that, and I don't know what to think about it. :)
5:33:33
drmeister
Well, people like things and post them to hackernews. There is a lot of crap posted - it's nice to see something good now and then.
5:34:25
beach
Indeed. I don't follow these forums (fora?) so I don't quit understand what is going on.
5:36:03
drmeister
Pretty much that. crap crap crap crap cool-thing crap crap really-cool-thing. Hackernews is better than most.
5:38:52
drmeister
I think the site itself is coded in Common Lisp - it's run by Paul Graham and ycombinator.
5:39:16
no-defun-allowed
I think it's written in Arc, which is effectively Scheme with lots of shortenings.
5:41:04
no-defun-allowed
IIRC, Arc transpiles to (or is interpreted on?) Racket, which is also pretty cool.
5:46:17
no-defun-allowed
I get you though, writing lst in my otherwise very pretty, uncontracted code makes me cringe.
5:46:49
drmeister
ACTION likes his namespaces the way he likes his ice-cream and root-beer in floats - separated.
5:48:44
no-defun-allowed
I was very stupid today and forgot to copy my code off the desktop before I returned the CPU. I now cannot work on any of it for "two to six weeks". Oops.
5:50:34
no-defun-allowed
Also, erm, do you use the LLVM GC interface in Clasp, drmeister? On first sight, it seems a little obtuse, but I haven't had to manually interface with a GC for a while.
5:51:29
drmeister
No - I don't use the LLVM GC facilities. We interoperate with C++ and C++ doesn't provide any support for them.
6:10:59
samebchase
drmeister: you can try lobste.rs as well. It's like HN, but with a publicly available moderation log, and a smaller community
6:11:24
beach
Since I hadn't expected anyone to read the document, the version on the metamodular site was not quite up to date. Plus, lispos.pdf is the old name, so that one was even older. Now, closos.pdf and lispos.pdf are the same and up to date on the site.
9:47:40
no-defun-allowed
Oh, by the way, beach, the people at the store said the CPU replacement process would take "two to six weeks". I'm not sure if it's any shorter, since you're probably closer to the US and have a half-competent mail system.
9:53:38
beach
I'll check with my supplier about that. I definitely can't be without the computer that long.
9:58:48
beach
I think I might just tell my supplier to order a new processor, and when he gets it, to replace the existing one. It's an affordable way to test the hypothesis that the processor is the problem.
10:08:05
no-defun-allowed
Well, it is slower and has a tendency to get very hot. MacBooks don't have very good ventilation.
10:09:14
no-defun-allowed
Yes, schools around here really like Apple devices. Funny that, given Apple does a lot of tax evasion.
10:11:42
beach
If I were in charge of a nation like Australia, I would establish a national organization for FLOSS and recommend that administration, schools, etc. use standard PC hardware with the software from the organization.
10:12:45
no-defun-allowed
Indeed, I'd rather use open standards, since it is much harder to maintain a monopoly on those.
10:14:10
no-defun-allowed
Yup. My laptop was a similar price to my desktop, despite the latter being more powerful (relative to form factors, of course the desktop will be faster). The laptop is also second hand, too.
10:14:33
no-defun-allowed
Fortunately for the government, the families usually have to put up with the price.
10:17:55
no-defun-allowed
I remember an essay that proposed this is a very potent form of advertising: teaching students a specific product or tool instead of how to use a family of tools will make it likely they will not move from that tool.
10:21:14
Shinmera
The best part is the hardware of the macbooks was already outdated by the time we bought it
10:21:34
Shinmera
And with Apple making their OS worse as time went on, the laptops got unbearably slow too
10:23:10
no-defun-allowed
I must make one petty complaint though: the Caps Lock key does not have enough support underneath it, if you map it to C- to prevent Emacs pinky.
10:25:17
no-defun-allowed
The key doesn't get pressed uniformly, and sometimes the key mechanism will not press the internal switch. (This is on an early 2015 Air model, but I tried on a later keyboard where there is almost no travel, and it still feels wonky.)
10:27:14
no-defun-allowed
Embedding a space cadet keyboard into a laptop might be a viable idea, and would be an excuse to use a 21:9 screen in a laptop too. I digress though, you can get crappy Wintel laptop keyboards too.