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5:19:34
jackdaniel
beach: hey. the payment system seems to be ready; there are still a few things missing - most notably opt-in newsletter
5:23:06
beach
So, the reason I am interested is that I am seriously considering whether the time is ripe for external SICL funding.
5:23:39
beach
I am pretty sure I could gather up some monthly contributions. However, I still don't know who would be able to do the work.
5:24:06
beach
Your situation is that you are alone, and you work half time for an external customer and half time with McCLIM, yes?
5:24:44
beach
In the past, you had an employee, right? I guess you didn't have enough customers to support that employee.
5:25:48
jackdaniel
if I understand correctly the funding system clf works on is meant to be easy rolled by any cl project
5:27:39
jackdaniel
I don't know; I think that this is rather an opportunity question: when you have a capable employee you could take jobs that you are not able to undertake due to time limitations
5:29:02
beach
I think you understand my conundrum; I could likely gather up some financing, but the main obstacle is to find someone able to do the work.
5:29:32
beach
I have my salary so I don't need the money, and it would not be right for me to take it anyway.
5:30:03
jackdaniel
I think that I've mentioned it earlier, but the bounty program was a very moderate success
5:30:45
jackdaniel
I mean that bounties that required more insight were left untouched; easier ones required additional assistance
5:31:34
beach
I would be more interested in something like what you are doing with McCLIM, i.e., steady work by someone who will learn more and more over time.
5:32:07
no-defun-allowed
Just to mention it, I am looking for part-time work, but there is likely not much more that I can do than what I usually do (which is not an awful lot).
5:34:42
jackdaniel
speaking of, I'm already working locally with a single mirror as default, but I need to address a few regressions compared to all-mirrorred variant
5:35:09
no-defun-allowed
As I am now only a part-time student, I only get government funding if I actively look for work. And my initial impression with an organisation that helps one find work was not very good, so I would prefer not to be stuck with that.
5:35:42
no-defun-allowed
But I don't think I would be of too much help for the projects you have planned but not commenced.
5:36:50
beach
I am looking for someone to gradually take a big chunk of the implementation work that I now do with SICL.
5:37:31
beach
jackdaniel: Some performance regression is to be expected, since more work is done by McCLIM and less by the X11 server.
5:38:41
jackdaniel
because we'll need to render things like paths and such at our own capacity (xrender only composites things)
5:38:57
beach
no-defun-allowed: I don't understand this funding model you are talking about, but I am willing to discuss part-time work for you.
5:45:19
no-defun-allowed
Why I am looking for work shouldn't be so important. But I should think about what I will do for longer. Thanks for the offer though.
5:47:21
beach
I will, of course, try to find some other solution in the meantime. So the offer might disappear, unless, of course, I start a fundraiser.
5:48:40
beach
Perhaps the only way out is to take a relative newbie to train, but I don't think I have time for that.
5:50:25
no-defun-allowed
And, I should mention, I am only planning to either work or continue finding work, until I continue with full-time study, so until July.
5:51:13
no-defun-allowed
But, depending on the workload next semester, I may have sufficient time or I may not.
5:52:27
no-defun-allowed
(I admit, I feel a bit dirty asking for a job after infrequent volunteer work, but...let's say "external factors" are telling me to find a job.)
6:18:38
beach
no-defun-allowed: I got the distinct impression that you were not interested in part-time SICL work, but now I get the opposite impression. Which one is it?
6:19:50
no-defun-allowed
I am interested in part-time work, I am just bothered as I was fine with volunteering before. Sorry.
6:22:23
beach
Since I don't have a company or anything, how are you going to show that you have work in order to get the government funding?
6:23:02
no-defun-allowed
I get funding if I have evidence that I was looking for work, not if I have work.
6:26:20
beach
Let's put it this way: I can spend 1k€ per month for some time. You can work as much as you think that money is worth.
6:27:40
no-defun-allowed
I have about 10 hours of university attendance per week (commencing next week), and some other time will be needed for assignments and other study, so I would have to think about how much I can work with that in mind.
6:28:54
beach
Well, it sounds like you would have 50% available, which is more than the 1k€ will pay, so I suggest you just stop when you reach that limit.
6:39:16
no-defun-allowed
I think I should take a read over it first, but after that I could maintain register allocation.
6:39:24
jackdaniel
beach: when you argue that following an "estabilished" coding style in common lisp (i.e when participating in #lisp discussion), I think that you could link your code as an example
6:40:03
beach
no-defun-allowed: It is not finished. I stopped when I had to do the FIXNUM-DIVIDE-INSTRUCTION.
6:41:16
beach
jackdaniel: I'll think about it. The "not modest" part is an obstacle. Also, I don't want to show code that is half baked, so it would have to be carefully selected.
6:46:36
beach
How about you email me the information. I don't suppose you use IBAN down under, so I am not sure what information is relevant.
6:46:56
beach
But at least account number, account name, bank name and address, any SWIFT or similar.
6:49:07
no-defun-allowed
Australian banks use a BSB (bank, state, branch) system, but I will have to check what information is required.
6:52:49
no-defun-allowed
By the sounds of things, I do have to disappear briefly for dinner, and after I will send an email with my information.
8:04:51
no-defun-allowed
It does not, but if one is necessary, then the account number should be used as an IBAN (according to my bank).
8:20:29
no-defun-allowed
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Bank_Account_Number#Non-EEA> has a list of exceptions, including USA, Australia and New Zealand.
8:52:41
beach
::notify Bike Correct me if I am wrong, but 1. The Ctor mechanism can be used with ordinary functions as well as generic functions, right? 2. While it has more overhead than the mechanism I propose in my paper, it could still be beneficial in some cases, like for instance when there are lots of keyword arguments. 3. This mechanism exists in Clasp, right? If so, what do you use it for?