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8:48:37
no-defun-allowed
It might be useful for someone who has not joined #sicl yet. I have had a few cases where I could not encourage someone to pick up Common Lisp, because they thought the community was less polite than other communities. Though I suppose it is unlikely a non-Lisp programmer would take up interest in a Common Lisp compiler and implementation.
8:51:45
beach
Also, apparently #lisp is way more polite than most IRC channels. Or so I hear. Newcomers are often surprised to learn how helpful #lisp participants are.
9:22:41
beach
jdz: Oh, that's very kind of you to say so. Sometimes I feel I am too cranky, and should avoid attempting to help people.
9:25:46
jdz
beach: We're all just people in the end. But I admire your patience quite often, and think you are setting a very good standard of communication on technical matters.
9:43:17
beach
Well, this morning was fun. From Bleujour, I ordered an OCTO with 32GB of memory, 500GB of SSD, and a processor with 4 cores. I also ordered an OCTO N4000 for my (admittedly small) family, and two USB C to DVI cables for my old monitors. All that for a little more than 1k€. Goodbye towers! Goodbye Ubuntu!
9:44:22
beach
They are located in Toulouse, so I can send my favorite coauthor to fuss at them if something goes wrong. She is from Toulouse and often goes to visit her family there.
9:44:34
no-defun-allowed
What OS do the OCTO computers come with then? My completely random guess would be Debian.
9:48:33
no-defun-allowed
Maybe the AUD/EUR exchange rate changes my perception; €1,000 is equivalent to about AU$1550 right now. Although, apparently many components are somewhat more expensive now due to silicon shortages.
9:48:35
beach
Even avoiding the hassle of burning a DVD for the OS, installing the OS, and driving to pick up my computer (which I had to do around 5 times for my existing, crashing, tower) is worth hundreds of € to me.
9:51:13
beach
Each trip took an hour or so. Multiply by 5 and the hourly salary of a full professor, and it quickly adds up, though granted we are not paid nearly as much here as in many other western countries.
15:48:45
beach
Everything in assembly is a sequence of instructions with some words of data from time to time.
15:49:21
beach
A function, if translated from a high-level language, would be called with a CALL or JSR instruction, and the function would return to the caller with a RET instruction.
16:00:49
pjb
beach: in the extreme case of a 1-instruction processor, you don't have to store any bit to encode the operation code. You just need to store the addresses of the arguments or the jump.
16:03:03
pjb
This is why compilers have to perform two kinds of analysis and optimization: data flow analysis and optimization, and code flow analysis and optimization.
17:33:13
ebrasca
jackdaniel: food give you time and you may weste this time. Food don't give you understanding.
17:35:20
jackdaniel
ebrasca: you can say exactly the same thing about the philosophy - it may be a huge waste of time and may not give you understanding. people are far too often seduced by their own words