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16:47:19
jackdaniel
ebrasca: think of it as whole operating system and userland implemented in the kernel
16:52:04
beach
That's why I ask you about definitions. If that is all the supervisor does, and it does it in a way that is not particular, then sure, CLOSOS and every OS has a supervisor.
17:05:37
ebrasca
If you don't have distinction between primary and secondary memory how do you make sure you don't lose data?
17:06:18
beach
You can lose a few minutes of data, just like you can if you haven't saved your editor buffer and you turn off the power.
17:10:12
alandipert
wow. i have something like a very rough but complete ELS paper draft, i would be extremely grateful for any feedback on it: https://tailrecursion.com/~alan/documents/jacl-els-2020-draft.pdf
17:10:15
beach
If you read the chapter on checkpointing, you will see that only the page table needs to be in SSD. But also, technology is improving. That's just a problem with the current technology.
17:11:40
beach
alandipert: What I can offer is this: You upload the paper by the deadline. After that, the site allows you to upload modified versions for quite some time.
17:11:57
beach
alandipert: So when I have uploaded my own, I can start to work on yours and that of my favorite coauthor.
17:12:50
alandipert
oh, any time you can devote to helping me would be more than welcome, but i would hate for you to have the idea that i expect such help :-) you have helped me so much already, and if this doesn't get accepted i'll be OK
17:13:46
beach
What I am telling you is that it is going to take them time to assign referees and have the referees do their job.
17:14:46
beach
So to gain some time, it is optimal (for me) to wait until after the deadline, so that I don't have to rush with my own stuff.
17:15:23
alandipert
makes sense. if nothing else i still have a bunch of remaining work for my bibliography
17:16:04
beach
Plus, there is this concept of "accept"-able. When additional improvements are not likely to change the decision of the program committee, you can submit the paper.
17:20:21
beach
alandipert: Oh, and if you submit your link to #lisp, you will have more people help you. For instance flip214 is an excellent proofreader.
17:20:48
ebrasca
beach: I like Single address space , Object store based on attributes and Single memory abstraction.
17:41:33
beach
What I mean is that a message can have different tags, and the user can find messages by tags, so there is not one unique "mailbox" in which a message can be located.
17:44:05
beach
Anyway, dinner is imminent here. And after dinner I will spend time with my (admittedly small) family. I'll be back tomorrow (UTC+1).
21:51:12
|3b|
alandipert: in introduction, "Each new language promotes, ... and claim ..." should probably be "claims". will read the rest in a while, sounds like an interesting project :)
21:52:48
alandipert
i am about to push a few changes, so feel free to refresh the page when you get back to it to see latest
22:47:17
|3b|
alandipert: in 2.3, "the limitations of the pre-reader appear not to encumbered those" -> "not have encumbered" or "not encumber"... not sure which is better there (or maybe rewriting more of the sentence would be better?)
23:01:47
|3b|
alandipert: the async reader example in 3.1 might be more interesting if it wrote the number in more than 1 piece
23:23:37
alandipert
maybe i should rationalize that. i wrote them that way because nodes have arbitrary keys, but the methods/behaviors of Env are sealed
23:25:48
|3b|
possibly just put "node" in normal font and capitalize it in "node and Env objects...", if it isn't really a js type?
23:28:44
|3b|
js implementation details like actual class or not aren't really important to the paper
23:29:39
|3b|
but having lower case "node" at beginning of a sentence makes it stand out, which is a bit distracting
23:30:45
|3b|
Switching to "Env and node..." would also avoid that, if it does refer to something specific in js code worth having a different font (though that's only time it gets different font in the section that i could find)
4:35:07
alandipert
in even better news, my also-admittedly-small but highly educated family has agreed to edit. red pens have been produced
4:35:10
beach
Great! I feel privileged to be surrounded by so many smart and knowledgeable people, who, in addition, are willing to help out so much.
4:36:27
beach
You know, mine worked for ILOG that produced LeLisp, and she translated Lisp in Small Pieces from French to English. She will sign your copy if you bring it to ELS. :)
4:36:51
beach
oh, and she has a PhD in English, and she was a distinguished technical writer at ILOG and then IBM. :)
4:39:14
alandipert
that's awesome. yeah like many programmers i make casual comparisons between programming and writing, but every time i try to do it, i realize: writing is a higher art
4:42:24
beach
It is the first style guide that is not about silly personal opinions, but based on his research in linguistics and cognitive psychology.
4:43:23
beach
Plus, he is an excellent writer himself, and an excellent speaker, as you can see from his many talks available on YouTube.
4:46:30
alandipert
recently i watched a short series of videos featuring Patrick Winston on lecturing and applied them in a talk. good stuff i think