freenode/#shirakumo - IRC Chatlog

16:38:37 nagisa Hello

16:40:01 nagisa Portacle crashes when I open it (latest version) can someone help me?

16:41:31 Shinmera Probably not. What platform are you on? Linux?

16:41:44 nagisa Mac

16:42:04 Shinmera Hm. What version?

16:42:25 nagisa 11.2.3

16:42:56 Shinmera That's really old. I think the current binary is compiled for 10.13.

16:43:25 Shinmera oh wait, you mean big sur

16:43:39 Shinmera uuuh, yeah, no eta when I'll have time to test on that hot mess.

16:43:42 Shinmera sorry

16:46:23 nagisa How did you make Kandria?

16:46:54 Shinmera With lots of time and effort

16:47:04 Shinmera What are you asking, exactly? :)

16:47:13 mfiano throw some math at some pixels. done

16:47:43 nagisa How do I join Shirakumo collective?

16:48:29 Shinmera By sticking around here and making quality contributions to our open source software.

16:52:08 nagisa I have to make contributions on github?

16:52:44 Shinmera Well... yeah. What do you think the collective is?

16:53:53 nagisa I understand now, I like the collective.

16:54:26 nagisa How would you make Portacle work on big sur?

16:54:57 Shinmera with lots of pain, anger, and frustration, as is required of any amount of time spent trying to develop for Apple.

17:03:12 Shinmera Sorry, I can't give you detailed instructions on what I would do. I haven't done it, so I don't know.

17:03:46 Shinmera Getting programs to be portable is a living nightmare and explaining all the dumb crap involved is almost as painful as actually doing it.

17:05:39 mfiano Shinmera: I just got off of a live stream with scymtym and we profiled and looked at the IR for my engine.

17:05:53 Shinmera cool

17:05:57 mfiano 1) It seems cl-opengl is using cffi in some questionable ways

17:06:04 mfiano (which conses quite a bit)

17:06:47 mfiano 2) we discovered that cffi itself has to do lots of type checks unless safety is set to 0. huge performance gains can be had with that, not that i feel very confortable doing so :/

17:07:09 Shinmera yeah I noticed that myself.

17:07:28 Shinmera cffi could definitely be a lot faster.

17:09:14 mfiano I was expecting bigger gains with my recent broad-phase spatial partitioning addition, but at least i can have tens of thousands of objects interacting with each other, which is probably acceptable for most games.

17:10:18 mfiano think i'll take his advice and add circular timing buffers to all the different subsystems so i can relative times and take averages etc.