18:45:03selwynis 'batteries included' thinking inherently flawed? i am struggling to think of any significant upsides of a big standard library
18:47:58selwynwhen i plan to do serious work in anything, i expect to use libraries at some point
18:48:36ShinmeraWell it's bad in the sense that any standard library needs to be rigorous because changing it later is very hard as many things will depend on it.
18:48:48ShinmeraThis is still a problem for libraries, but less so, because you can choose.
18:49:02selwynit's not particularly impressive to me even when the standard library does have what i want as opposed to a separate library, like why would i care where the functionality is
18:49:27ShinmeraImo it's the wrong solution to a different problem: discoverability