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21:27:05
Shinmera
I don't know. Splatoon and Smash are both games that I wrinkled my nose at in disgust at first.
21:27:48
Shinmera
Given how much of a complete 180 I did on both I find it hard to imagine there's anyone out there that wouldn't at least get a good amount of enjoyment out of them.
21:31:10
Shinmera
It's the first VR game I've seen that actually looks like a game in VR rather than a VR demo.
21:32:09
Shinmera
VR is another thing that never convinced me so far, but Alyx is changing my mind on that just watching someone play it :)
21:34:23
selwyn
at the moment, making vr games and experiences with trial-vr is probably my plan for the future which has the highest chance of succeeding
21:34:28
Shinmera
Vinny (the one I've been watching) bought the index for it and has been very impressed with the tech for that.
21:34:57
selwyn
but i am not so excited by the technology itself, so i am reluctant to commit to it yet
21:37:42
Shinmera
Speaking of exciting tech, the Switch is the most exciting game thing for me in many years
21:41:42
no-defun-allowed
May consider getting a Switch, since the Wii is 13 years old and some other folks I know have one
21:41:43
selwyn
in the game, you can fly to switzerland for rehab for a drug addiction because 'switzerland is the most relaxing place in the world'
22:55:25
selwyn
do you guys have an opinion on using reader macros to export symbols using annotations? something like cl-annot for example
22:57:02
Shinmera
reader macros in general are a last resort kind of thing. using it for something as trite as exporting symbols is dumb. for exporting in specific, having the exports in a different place also means redefining the defpackage will fail.
22:57:16
Shinmera
cl-annot has further problems in that it will not work with arbitrary macros that expand into definitions
22:57:47
Shinmera
it's also just a thing that feels extremely like "I know this language so I will make CL that language instead of just writing CL"
22:58:03
Shinmera
meaning it adds little value beyond making someone not have to accustom to writing idiomatic CL.
23:00:16
Shinmera
Like, on the scale of time required for writing a high quality thing, writing some symbols into the depfackage form is practically zero anyway
23:01:24
Shinmera
plus having that list handy directly is often useful for me cause I can quickly copy it and use some emacs macros to turn it into the required documentation definition forms.
23:01:50
Shinmera
but then again people using cl-annot also wouldn't use external documentation, if they document at all
23:26:17
selwyn
well it's convinced me to change. i also need to switch to package-local-nicknames for everything