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Wednesday, 2nd of December 2020, 6:56:17 UTC
12:31:37
selwyn
there is actually a somewhat rigorous result to the effect that there will be enough coincidental overlaps between any two languages that you can push any kind of pet language origin theory you want
12:32:16
selwyn
e.g. japanese is derived from ancient serbian or whatever
12:32:52
Shinmera
if I remember correctly japanese itself is very weird and has almost no connections to other languages because of its isolated history.
12:35:52
selwyn
the sentence structure is very similar to turkish but that is thought to be a coincidence these days
12:36:26
selwyn
japanese and korean speakers are usually the most proficient at learning it as a second language
12:36:53
Shinmera
In completely unrelated things:
12:38:35
Shinmera
Last call for my calendar, there's only five left! https://gumroad.com/l/yukari2021
12:38:51
Shinmera
And not a lot of time for it to ship
12:40:59
selwyn
damn thought i already ordered it. thanks for reminding
12:42:42
adlai
for what values of 'somewhat' ?
12:42:51
phoe
I made an instance of class PURCHASE
12:43:14
Shinmera
phoe: Got it, thank you! :)
12:43:43
adlai
ACTION doubts that such a result survives torture between, e.g., simple english, lojban, and linear-b
12:45:37
Shinmera
Well, only four left, then :u
12:55:46
Shinmera
selwyn: thank you, as well
12:56:17
Shinmera
Your request might be a bit complex for a doodle on the package, but I shall try.
12:57:06
selwyn
was going to say idk if it's feasible lol. much appreciated
13:12:39
Shinmera
i_tried.jpg https://filebox.tymoon.eu//file/TWpFek53PT0=
13:14:16
Shinmera
selwyn: oh wait shit you ordered two
13:14:22
Shinmera
fuck, gotta repackage lol
13:15:41
Shinmera
phew, was able to open it without destroying the package
13:21:02
Shinmera
I'm sure the clerk at the post office is gonna be //thrilled// to see me stride in there with 15 packages in tow
14:29:24
Shinmera
getting weird spurious errors where entities that should not receive events still do
14:29:30
Shinmera
and I can't fucking figure out why
14:29:49
Shinmera
they don't seem to get removed from the queue properly, but the code looks fine and the small tests I have do too
14:43:13
selwyn
do you set yourself a target number to sell?
14:53:31
Shinmera
I was hoping to sell more than last year
14:53:42
Shinmera
Last year I had 19 sales
14:53:54
Shinmera
this year only 14, and that's with the ones from today.
14:54:10
Shinmera
So 25 or 30 would have been nice, but evidently that's not happening.
14:56:01
Shinmera
To get even a measly hourly rate of work out of the calendars I'd have to sell around 150 of them at the current price.
14:56:37
Shinmera
I'm a long way from this being a viable business :)
15:52:18
Shinmera
finally added support for flipping the orientation on axes in cl-gamepad
15:52:30
Shinmera
but now I should re-configure all the devices in the database
15:55:23
Shinmera
can someone else buy all the controllers and do that for me, tia
16:31:38
Shinmera
gingerale: can you do me a solid and reconfigure the xbox 360 pad on windows in cl-gamepad?
16:31:43
Shinmera
Make sure you have latest sources
16:31:50
Shinmera
and follow the instructions it prints exactly
16:31:59
Shinmera
I don't have my pad handy
18:11:15
gingerale
Shinmera: Sure, I can test that. I'll just have to find out how to do it again.
18:12:01
Shinmera
make sure you have the latest, load cl-gamepad, (org.shirakumo.fraf.gamepad:init) (org.shirakumo.fraf.gamepad:configure-device (first *)) ought to do it
18:19:33
gingerale
Shinmera: The trigger doesn't register
18:20:06
Shinmera
that's ok -- frequently dpad or triggers do not signal buttons.
18:20:35
gingerale
Logo/home also does not register because it opens some windows thing
18:20:39
Shinmera
that's another thing the library should do at some point, ensure it always signals both ways -- axes and buttons.
18:20:56
Shinmera
Try uninstalling the xbox game bar thingy
18:21:14
Shinmera
or, wait, you have to disable that, if I remember correctly
18:21:57
gingerale
Ah, found the setting
18:22:25
Shinmera
I wonder if we have to do some kinda weird api call to prevent it from doing that
18:22:36
Shinmera
having users have to go into settings isn't great
18:22:50
gingerale
Shinmera: Now it doesn't open anything but it still won't register the home button
18:23:06
Shinmera
well, skip it for now then
18:24:01
gingerale
And the d-pad axis doesn't work, as expected. Saved the configuration.
18:24:19
Shinmera
thanks, you can commit and push the change
18:25:40
gingerale
I hope not pressing perfectly upwards on the y-axis didn't do any harm. Should be fine.
18:26:21
gingerale
Oh yeah, this is an XBone controller to be exactly precise. Version 2 of it. But it should be the same thing as X360.
18:26:44
Shinmera
It has a dead zone for that, so should be fine.
18:27:01
Shinmera
if I remember correctly it registers the axis if it goes above 0.7 and then below 0.3
18:29:02
Shinmera
Okey, all the orientations are +1, that's what I was hoping for
18:30:30
Shinmera
Just need to redo all the other mappings at some point, sigh
18:31:28
gingerale
Whoa, suddenly Steam grabbed the home button and went into Big Picuter
18:33:12
gingerale
Shutting down Steam still didn't let me map it.
18:33:36
Shinmera
Ah. It's not available through xinput anyway.
18:33:54
Shinmera
Gotta make sure not to use it for anything important then.
Wednesday, 2nd of December 2020, 18:56:17 UTC