freenode/#mezzano - IRC Chatlog

14:20:55 Shinmera froggey: Have you had anyone try Mezzano on VmWare?

14:24:03 froggey no, but I'd be interested to know the result

14:25:10 Shinmera VMWare says: the CPU has been disabled by the guest operating system.

14:25:35 froggey that'll be a panic, the serial log should say what went wrong

14:25:35 Shinmera mezzano shows: Starting system. Entry point is ff8cde49 sp is 00c05d89 info is 00100000

14:25:42 froggey nothing else?

14:25:45 froggey after that

14:25:49 Shinmera on the screen? no.

14:26:25 froggey in the serial log

14:27:15 Shinmera Not sure how to get that on VmWare, hold on.

14:30:28 Shinmera https://plaster.tymoon.eu/view/1972#1972

14:30:52 Shinmera vmware also has its own log that has things in it if you want that, too

14:31:47 Shinmera Could also upload the vmx, I think you should be able to run that with the free VmWare Player.

14:33:24 froggey can you try booting with the freestanding option? that should produce a more useful set of backtraces

14:34:03 Shinmera I'm afraid I don't know what that means.

14:34:47 froggey at the kboot boot menu there should be a "Mezzano - freestanding" option, pick that one

14:34:54 froggey I assume you built this image yourself?

14:35:18 Shinmera I downloaded demo 5.

14:35:48 froggey I think it should be the same...

14:36:03 Shinmera https://plaster.tymoon.eu/view/1972#1973

14:38:41 froggey ah, there we go. "Sector size: 0", that's weird

14:41:22 froggey one sec... F1 got exciting for a moment

14:41:39 Shinmera I'm in no rush at all :)

14:49:40 froggey Shinmera: try going to the kboot shell (F10 at the menu) and booting with: mezzano "hd0,2" "freestanding" "no-detect"

14:50:00 froggey this'll disable most hardware detection and should get it past that bit

14:50:39 Shinmera It'd be nice if the menu lasted more than one second, clicking into the vm and inputting before it's gone is a bit tough.

14:53:05 Shinmera Boot Error, incompatible video mode vga:80x25

14:54:16 froggey I have forgotten how to use kboot...

14:54:42 froggey you could try mounting the bootloader partition in the image and editing the boot config that way...

14:54:43 Shinmera Also, this is making me regret unlearning qwerty lol

14:59:08 froggey ok, do this before the mezzano boot command: set "video_mode" "lfb:1024x768"

14:59:32 froggey it's also messing me up, kboot uses the US qwerty layout

14:59:51 Shinmera Well I'm used to dvorak :)

15:00:34 froggey that's a slightly larger difference

15:00:59 Shinmera programmer dvorak, so not even the digits are in the right place

15:03:12 Shinmera wohey, I get a desktop

15:03:46 Shinmera Time to play some DOOM

15:04:20 froggey nice

15:05:14 froggey do the keyboard & mouse both work? they always cause trouble on new systems

15:05:23 Shinmera yeah

15:05:28 froggey great

15:06:06 Shinmera no sound, though I don't think that's in, yet?

15:06:40 froggey it's in, but SDL doesn't have it wired up

15:06:54 Shinmera Is there anything I can do to help get the auto-detect working?

15:08:13 froggey nope, easy fix

15:08:19 Shinmera Hear hear

15:08:24 froggey well, workaround

15:08:50 froggey I guess you could dig through the ata spec and figure out exactly how to detect the sector size properly

15:09:20 Shinmera I think that's a bit beyond my current pain threshold :)

15:10:36 froggey you could try grabbing the latest master, building it and giving it a try

15:12:25 froggey actually there's no support for any of the vmware nics, so building world be impossible

15:12:48 Shinmera that's what I was going to ask about

15:12:54 froggey *would

15:13:01 froggey wanna write a driver?

15:14:02 Shinmera If I didn't have too much on my plate (or enough helpers to manage it) I would be interested.

15:14:17 froggey fair enough

15:18:25 Shinmera Turns out making a game is a big endeavour :)

15:21:23 froggey yeah. I've been following your blog posts, very interesting stuff

15:21:41 Shinmera Ah! Glad to hear, thank you! :)

15:22:56 froggey looks like vbox & vmware both support the Intel 82545EM, so that'll be the one to target. I'll do that... eventually

15:24:33 Shinmera When are you going to write an Nvidia GPU driver? :V

15:24:50 froggey pft, when they release docs

15:27:47 froggey it's a shame the intel gpu on my test machine is so old. intel releases documentation, but it doesn't stretch quite that far back

15:29:51 froggey I was able to puzzle out the 2D/modesetting side from the available docs, but the 3D side looks totally different. I'm not sure it even supports hardware vertex shaders...

15:30:12 Shinmera wow.

15:30:31 Shinmera I know fragment shaders are //slow// on intel.

15:47:21 random-nick does AMD release documentation or do they just release the linux driver and firmware?

15:48:14 froggey iirc they release quite a bit, enough to do 3D

16:04:39 alexshendi Hello from the Mezzano IRC application (QEMU/NetBSD 9).

16:05:26 froggey hi, congrats

16:05:39 alexshendi Which network cards are supported on real HW? I managed to run Demo 5 on a Thinkpad X220.

16:06:04 alexshendi But couldn't get the network working.

16:06:14 froggey only the rtl8168

16:08:47 alexshendi froggy: That is also available as a PCI express card for Notebooks, IIRC?

16:09:09 alexshendi s/froggy/froggey/

16:09:17 alexshendi Sorry

16:09:47 froggey I don't know

16:14:39 alexshendi OK, thanks, nevermind!