3:21:30beachI started watching a talk by Robert Virding entitled "On Language Design", and I think the next time someone suggests a revision of the Common Lisp standard, I'll point them to that presentation.
3:23:15beach"Be very careful when making changes suggested by users" * They often don't see the whole picture of the changes they suggest. * They often don't know what they really need. * They often want help with a solution; not [with] solving a problem.
4:03:26contrapunctusIronic, in the context of a language which is famous for trusting that the user knows best.
4:04:26contrapunctus(And that it should be possible for the user, if they wish, to get involved the design of the language.)
4:06:09no-defun-allowedArguably a user is expected to involve themselves by "extending" a language via macros.
4:06:57beachNot really ironic. The users get involved by experimenting, using the existing features of the language, and only after extensive experimentation and user experience is the new proposal considered for standardization.
4:07:15beachI think this idea was even documented somewhere.