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18:38:30
mseddon
I wonder, is there a nice way in CL and emacs to do something equivalent to elisp's (declare (indent indent-spec))?
18:39:25
mseddon
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Indenting-Macros.html#Indenting-Macros
18:40:03
jackdaniel
you may hint slime about indentation from swank package (I don't remember the interface)
4:58:12
beach
Today, for my daily exercise, I watched the first half of a presentation by Brandon Rhodes, entitles "Python as C++'s limiting case", given at code::dive 2018. It reminded me of something I frequently repeat, namely "People spend a lot of time and energy to avoid learning Common Lisp."
4:58:59
beach
This presentation also reminded me of the sorry state of the fields of computing, programming, and software engineering.
5:01:40
aeth
The most disappointing part of modern software seems to be design. Every time there's a new update that changes the design, usability and feature discoverability go way down. Most recently, with Firefox for Android.
5:02:32
aeth
And any feature that telemetry shows is uncommonly used will eventually get removed, no matter how useful it is
5:04:16
beach
Well, I was mostly referring to the time and energy spent by the developers, project leaders, etc. But maybe this minimalism trend is due tot he fact that their tools are so complex that they can't do otherwise.
5:16:55
aeth
beach: Well, cutting features seems to be incredibly common these days, so perhaps the issue is maintaining software.
5:32:54
beach
That's part of what I was referring to. The hypothesis was that, in order to simplify their work (design, first-time development, maintenance), since their main tool (i.e., the programming language) makes their task so hard, they need to cut down on the features.