9:38:22clintmflip214: That's what I got with LW as well.
9:39:08clintmHrm, maybe if I scour the allegro docs I can find a way to turn it on even if just during testing and development. Thanks for the info, everyone!
10:00:30Haragis there a "prefered" "portable" pretty printing library out there that deals with writing the likes of clos objects and hashtables as readable, even if it is just readable by itself
10:01:39phoeI have phoe-toolbox:print-hash-table-readably for hash tables
10:02:26phoeand also possibly phoe-toolbox:print-instance-readably that tries to be DWIMmy in what it does
10:02:37phoeand therefore can miserably fail if one doesn't know what they're doing
14:31:17flip214yeah, but the arithmetic on them might be broken
14:37:49phoehuh, 18th Jan should still fit within Y2K38
14:38:30Xachflip214: oh, i would just stick with gzip, since i already have the code for it in the client.
14:42:50flip214Xach: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/6b51c5a0/, both with best settings (gzip -k9, brotli -kZ)
14:42:57flip214don't know how expensive bandwidth is for you
14:43:41flip214about 20% smaller, but of course I understand the convenience of having the unpacker already available
14:43:55Xachflip214: that looks promising, do you have brotli decompression code in CL?
14:50:13flip214Xach: use zopfli then. https://paste.debian.net/hidden/72cd504f/, decompression compatible with gzip - in fact, it creates .gz files by default.
18:41:46pvewas afraid I had some findin' and replacin' to do
20:58:41|3b|icfp contest this year ( https://icfpcontest2020.github.io/#/ ) seems to need a premade docker setup to build/run things, anyone know docker well enough to send a PR to https://github.com/icfpcontest2020/dockerfiles ?
20:59:46phoe|3b|: what sorta dockerfile you need? just Lisp?
21:00:06phoeif yes, then https://github.com/daewok/docker-sbcl/ is updated
21:00:22|3b|looks like it would probably want sbcl and some preinstalled ql stuff (though hard to say which ql stuff)
21:01:33phoewill it have internet connection? if yes, then just install the client
21:05:06|3b|yeah, probably preinstall stuff like that
21:05:28|3b|(sample needs enough to do an HTTP request anyway, so would probably have a bunch of those)
21:06:07dimdrakma and all build dependencies, and the other http clients too, and puri, and html/xml parsers, and esrap, the short list isn't that short
21:06:11phoeoh and your favorite http clients, yes
21:06:38dimhell, I would use pgloader as a proxy to install many dependencies ;-)
21:07:08dimACTION was not a fan of having to package 60+ CL libs for debian to allow for having pgloader there
21:12:38|3b|looks like latter might have roswell/ql already installed, former might have more choice of OS/arch (not sure that matters for this though)
21:12:46phoeother than for my natural distrust for fukamachiware
21:12:58dimone thing I would try with them is doing some SSL stuff or other things you might want to do that require loading a .so file ; it's surprisingly non trivial to make that work reliably, and you certainly want that solved in the docker container
21:16:59BACKQUOTED-LISThas anybody here ever used lisp tkinter?