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16:39:33
developernotes
Hi, not sure what the rules are for sharing links like this, but wanted to get feedback about doing a state of common lisp survey for 2020: https://www.reddit.com/r/Common_Lisp/comments/f0jrnv/state_of_common_lisp/
16:48:41
beach
Sharing links is fine as long as you give a short summary of what it refers to, just like you did.
16:51:23
beach
developernotes: I am not sure what the format is of this description of the state. Is it just a random selection of remarks from individuals?
16:52:47
PuercoPope
beach: yes, the previous one is from 2015: https://borretti.me/article/common-lisp-sotu-2015
16:53:22
beach
Hmm. So how is such a random selection supposed to be any sort of indication of the state of anything really?
16:53:23
developernotes
beach: sorry, that isn't the survey itself, I just wanted to make people aware of it in case there were any questions they'd like to see on it.
16:54:17
PuercoPope
It is common in other language communities to give a yearly report of the communities recommended libraries. But Lisp is more like an archipelago instead of a single community so the opinions will vary significantly
16:54:48
beach
Nor any request like the one you just made, i.e. what questions they would like to see.
16:54:59
developernotes
Agreed, I think this will be an interesting way to gather a large number of opinions.
16:56:01
developernotes
beach: my initial thoughts were to base it off the Haskell survey: https://taylor.fausak.me/2019/11/16/haskell-survey-results/
16:57:30
developernotes
I will post a link when the survey is finalized and find a way for publish the results for all to review.
19:50:31
Xach
I bought the proceedings of the 1994 acm conference on lisp and functional programming, and a pair of articles describes Talk, an ISLisp-derived lisp made for painless C++ interaction. but i have found it hard hard to search for "talk" "C++" "islisp". All I can find is the ACM's archive of the papers in the proceedings.
19:52:57
alandipert
Xach i'm highly interested in that, as it relates generally to interaction with a foreign platform/language
19:55:28
Xach
a month ago i bought a bunch of books on abebooks that were all under $10 and forgot about many of them until they started arriving.
19:57:23
Xach
christian queinnec has a paper on distributed, concurrent computing that refers to the ubiquity of the internet
19:57:42
Bike
none of the authors seem to have papers after 1994. seniak has a startup and some mentions in unrelated papers
20:06:09
Bike
i found a google groups post that refers to a gz of the free version of ILOG Talk, but it seems pretty down. ftp, baby
20:36:45
alandipert
googling the file name yielded http://ftp.vim.org/pub/ibiblio/devel/lang/lisp/ilog-talk-3.32.bin.x86.tar.gz
21:13:18
pfdietz32
Google Scholar has led me down rabbit holes. I tried to get a copy of a document from UC Berkeley that apparently exists only in their stacks, and is not available for interlibrary loan. I guess I could ask them to scan a copy for me.
0:43:57
Oladon
I'm trying to get Hunchentoot working with server-sent events (text/event-stream). It seems like the socket is getting closed when I run send-headers (L6); the browser tries to reconnect a few seconds later, but never receives any events. https://pastebin.com/MvqsUSgE I suspect I'm doing something silly... anyone see what I'm doing wrong, or have any ideas?
0:47:52
pjb
The message saying that the event is sent is wrong. The event has been formatted and written into some buffer. It has not been sent.
0:48:50
Oladon
How come it's closing the socket though? Shouldn't it just leave it open indefinitely?
0:53:24
pjb
Well, there may indeed be even more complications, if it's a gray stream managed by the HTTP protocol, such as a chunked-io-stream.
0:54:53
Oladon
In theory the client should leave it open when it receives text/event-stream as the content-type...
1:00:57
Oladon
Hmm, I think the server is the one killing it... curl -N should stay connected otherwise?