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8:12:18
Shinmera
Well, technically I do have better things to do, like focusing on university studies
8:13:16
no-defun-allowed
Making cool things in Lisp and getting a degree to get a good job, probably.
8:13:41
no-defun-allowed
But good language variety to one of the universities I looked at was "Java and C♯" ):
8:17:07
no-defun-allowed
And I have a compose key I have no other use for, other than writing ☭ slightly faster.
8:18:46
no-defun-allowed
In fact, this web client is so shitty that even macOS configured to use Emacs keybinds don't work.
8:20:52
Duuqnd
no-defun-allowed: Why use a web client? There should be plenty of IRC clients on macOS.
8:22:25
Nistur
I miss university. So much time to do what you want. It felt hectic and busy at the time but, looking back...
8:22:38
no-defun-allowed
Duuqnd: Because I use IRC via matrix.org, which has its own problems I'm not in the mood to cover, and that has basically 0 good clients other than the web one.
9:45:57
scymtym
phoe: did you say CLIM dark mode? https://techfak.de/~jmoringe/mcclim-dark-theme.png
9:51:43
scymtym
the mechanism will probably be a part of McCLIM (it is not in the CLIM standard). applications will be customizable individually
9:52:41
Duuqnd
That sounds really cool. It'd be great if you can change the settings in one place and have all CLIM programs follow that.
9:52:45
scymtym
but i think we should finish double buffering ( https://techfak.de/~jmoringe/mcclim-double-buffering.ogv ) and fsm-based gadgets/animations ( https://techfak.de/~jmoringe/mcclim-gadgets-fsm-2.ogv ) first
9:58:21
scymtym
changing themes would be like this https://techfak.de/~jmoringe/mcclim-gadgets-fsm-3.ogv
10:04:59
scymtym
when the time comes: https://common-lisp.net/project/mcclim/static/manual/mcclim.html
10:10:13
scymtym
we have lots of work ahead of us to make those prototypes into something actually usable
10:17:28
scymtym
maybe some find in-browser CLIM exciting? https://techfak.de/~jmoringe/mcclim-broadway-7.ogv
10:44:00
phoe
scymtym: you have a choice now, either you post that last video to /r/common_lisp or I post it there
10:53:48
scymtym
phoe: go ahead if you like, but make sure to note that it is a prototype. for context: the communication with the browser uses a modified version of GTK's broadway protocol ( https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-broadway.html )
10:59:07
phoe
https://old.reddit.com/r/Common_Lisp/comments/dfwbiz/a_prototype_of_mcclim_in_browser_using_the_gtk/
11:23:36
prxq
Hi, does anyone here have an archived copy of the RDNZL library? It seems to have vanished from the net. I followed the links at cliki etc, all download links that I've found are dead.
11:33:02
prxq
phoe: thanks. My customer has a ton of legacy code based on RDNZL, that could be an upgrade path. Need to get the old stuff running first, though.
12:12:34
ralt
the doc has this warning though: "Note that the CVS repository at common-lisp.net is usually not in sync with the current release version!"
12:14:37
ralt
Edi Weitz was fairly responsive as of a couple of years ago though, so I'm surprised you couldn't reach out to him
12:26:20
samlamamma
I've got a couple of Sexprs I'd like to print out as a Graphviz graph (w/o explicit cons cells, so straight up the AST). Anyone done a similar thing with a library that they can point me to?
13:40:19
ralt
it mentions latest rdnzl-cpp version is 0.7.1 and the latest svn commit says "import 0.7.1", so I assume it's the same
16:01:14
pjb
varjag: binary streams were considered to be always non-interactive, so it didn't make sense.
16:02:18
pjb
varjag: of course, nowadays, there are implementation-specific extensions such as socket-stream, that are both binary and interactive, so implementations may provide implementation specific to do the equivalent of read-char-no-hang.
16:02:42
pjb
varjag: or, if the implementation is consistent and considers socket-streams to be interactive, you can write (when (listen s) (read-byte s))
16:03:40
pjb
check the behavior of listen in your implementation on tcp streams, and if good, (when (listen s) (read-byte s))
18:56:31
fiveop
I wanted to try vulkan in CL unter linux. cl-vulkan seems unfinished and vktk is only set up for windows and mac so far. Is there anything else?
19:03:35
pjb
fiveop: CL doesn't run under linux, but above linux. So you might want to try vulkan in CL uber linux.