23:46:10no-defun-allowedclojure has immutable cons, so the bad parts remain bad
23:47:44aethperryx: Common Lisp has better performance, is more multi-paradigm, and has natively compiled implementations. It's more traditional of a language, so mutability is fine. Clojure has better Java/JVM integration than ABCL (the JVM CL, which is pretty niche) and focuses on concurrency so it's probably easier to write programs in Clojure if they're in the style of the niche that Clojure is aimed at.