23:44:09pjbConfusing / with \ is like confusing your left and your right.
23:44:15sjlpjb: yeah, it's similar to how prologed emacs use leaves you illiterate, able to communicate only in monosyllabic grunts of "ctrl, meta, meta h"
23:44:41pjbOr with in-extension command names, with M-x do-this-and-that
4:10:40PuercoPopWhat I would like is an extensible environment to develop in similar to Smalltalk. McCLIM is the best FLOSS alternative in that direction that I know of. But as they say, "Write the code you want to see in the World"
4:14:38stylewarningparjanya: I want to DEFSTRUCT A and B with them referring to one another with :type and not have CL croak
4:25:11Bikedefinition forms not based on compile time side effecting? wack
8:19:41johnnymacsLinked lists are turing complete yes?
8:21:48beachjohnnymacs: What on earth is that supposed to mean? Linked lists do not have any computation power.
8:24:49johnnymacsIs it not true that I can represent the number five as a linked list 5 deep and represent subtractionf rom that list as popping the the list 3 times to get a list 2 deep. And isn't it true that I can represent an array as a list, and isn't it true that I can represent an integer reteurn value as a list, and isn't it true I can represent and integer input value as a list?
8:27:59beachI think you need to read up on Turing completeness.
8:29:12johnnymacsIsn't it true that early lisps were implemented using only linked lists?
8:30:03stylewarningjohnnymacs: representation of values is only a part of any sort of computing device/program/interpreter/etc
8:30:19stylewarningjohnnymacs: What is the thing that actually transforms those lists?
8:30:48stylewarningEven if we can represent 2 and 3 as lists, who is in charge of computing, say, 2+3 as a list?