17:48:36phoeXach: aw! do you need any help getting your hard drive?
17:49:32skidd0xach, on a high level, when might one use your buildapp vs uiop
17:50:51Xachskidd0: for building binaries? not sure. i don't know what uiop offers.
17:51:06XachIt is probably more ported so that would be useful on not-SBCL and not-Clozure CL
17:51:22White_Flameit's always best to just use the default facilities first and get a hang of what's going on and what needs to be done
17:51:34White_Flamethen you can make better decisions on what features you need if you actually do need something more complex/bundled
17:51:41skidd0yeah i think i'm getting to far into the bushes
17:52:05Xachphoe: i have two hard drives and a fast computer running them but i have been away from home for a week so there has been no progress. i am optimistic i can build something soon. i really would like to get my old hard drive recovered though. that might involve shipping it somewhere.
17:53:55XachI was once very disciplined about backups. I have been punished for backsliding into laxity.
19:42:02on_ionphoe: er, already mentioned those earlier. intent of comparison to squeak smalltalk ChangeSets, those are portable across implementations and machines. they are essentially source code diffs.
20:28:44jmercourisbut I don't see how those would be absolutely dealbreakers
20:29:24Bikei doubt sly is going for some kind of amazing transcendental experience, just better than slime
20:30:14jmercourisI figured, just wanted to make sure
20:44:12XachI remember I didn't want to try slime because i liked ILISP. But actually using it showed me how wrong I was. Even though at a high level they do the same things.
20:44:19XachSly is pretty nice and I wish I had more time to try it.
20:49:41XachThe slime video helped a ton in persuading me to try it. Reading static pages and screenshots, and using your imagination, is not always persuasive
21:02:34dimthe cost of changing one's habit is very high, and slime is pretty good at what it does already
21:02:47XachI really want stickers and multiple repls!!
21:03:00XachThe friction for me was down to keystrokes
21:03:10dimmultiple repls? I think we have that already in slime, don't we?
0:44:11mfianoas of a few days ago, even builtin company completion with zero configuration that is much snappier than the old sly-company, or slime-company
0:45:01mfianoI switched from SLIME to Sly about 3 years ago and I'm still happy with that choice whenever I am reminded by using SLIME