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16:55:52
makomo
from what i understand, if you give MAPCAR multiple lists it calls the function by passing it all of the current heads at the same time
16:56:33
makomo
an example of what i want would be (map-concat #'1+ '(1 2 3) '(4 5 6)) == (2 3 4 5 6 7)
19:38:22
alandipert
just ran across it the other day, pretty weird. of course i'm in the loop macro fetish camp, ymmv
23:48:14
Xach_
Shinmera: yes. but i want to share the code and it's easier if some unlumped stuff is lumped.
23:50:22
Xach_
jmercouris: i made one 10 years ago and sold it a couple years ago and i miss making them.
23:51:15
Shinmera
ACTION just realised he doesn't find any of his projects particularly fun and wonders why
23:51:41
Xach_
jmercouris: I had a site that had 10 or so graphics toys on it, and I sold the whole set together, and I've been making smaller new ones since then.
23:52:21
jmercouris
Xach_: So basically it's not about the gif making websites, about making gif effects?
23:53:28
Xach_
I gave a lightning talk on the topic at ILC 2009. Guy Steele introduced me. Pretty thrilling.
23:55:52
Xach_
I was pretty close to selling my first generator to icanhazcheezburger.com to power their stuff. that would have been cool.
23:56:59
Xach_
i had just read an article about how they were charging something like $1000/week for ad units and they had a lot of ad units, so i asked for a lot of money too. but they didn't want to pay.
23:57:18
rme
It is really satisfying to see people use a tool you have worked on to make something new and cool.
23:58:02
Xach_
rme: https://twitter.com/inconvergent got me back on the kick. he uses vecto, i think. (in much more arty ways than i ever did)
23:59:17
AJavaIdiot
Can someone help me understand what fexprs do that a normal expression can't do?
23:59:36
lerax
Xach_: really this seems a lot of money. xD I'm a poor programmer. With $6.000 where I live I can buy a new house xD
0:00:20
AJavaIdiot
A concrete example: (defun (smth) (this-is-a-fexpr (op x y))). How does this differ (aside from syntax) from (defun (smth) (this-is-NOT-a-fexpr '(op x y)))?
0:05:01
earl-ducaine
lerax: where I live $6000 gets you ~2/mo. rent in a not especially nice 1br apt. Such is the capatalist world we live in.
0:05:11
Xach_
AJavaIdiot: this channel is for common lisp, which doesn't have fexprs. maybe someone here can discuss it, but it's not really topical.
0:06:15
Xach_
lerax: sure. it was a lot at the time. i thought maybe because they were making lots of money they might be wasteful. but they didn't, and they have grown extremely rich and successful, so they probably remain prudent.
0:07:39
AJavaIdiot
Xach_: yeah, I know cl doesn't have them, but I thought someone might be able to answer my question
0:08:17
jmercouris
Shinmera: Format does matter, how you do the transformations and whatever encoding you do can vastly alter the quality of the final image
0:08:47
AJavaIdiot
But it is topical in a hamfisted way: not having fexprs in CL was a deliberate decision which can be questioned :d
0:08:57
lerax
earl-ducaine: crazy stuff. Where you live? Well, I live in a third-quality country, so this probably makes sense.
0:12:00
AJavaIdiot
rme: yes, but I didn't really understand why fexprs wouldn't work in a lexically scoped lisp
0:13:57
earl-ducaine
lerax: San Francisco. (median for 1br is actually about $3500/mo) Not complaining of course, but if a developer is trying to scrape together enough money to put a roof over his head and feed himself, he has to charge, or work it as a hobby, gratus.
0:30:10
rme
Every so often, I find out that someone I've never met or heard from before is using CCL.
0:31:07
rme
That's always a pleasure to hear. I have often wished there were some way to know more about who is using it.
0:36:17
Xach_
When I first added paypal donations to quicklisp.org, I sent a handwritten postcard to a hundred or so initial donors. I wonder if anyone kept the cards.