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20:52:07
_death
and if you want to represent Lisp source text, or running time, or number of page faults, then these would be objects as well
20:53:08
_death
since Lisp data is the universe of discourse when the question is asked: is everything an object?
21:13:52
Fare
Xach: for this log, did you concatenate multiple sessions? One to discover all the systems defined in that file, then one for each system?
21:22:31
flip214
Who could help me get more information about ELS 2018? Our HR needs some informations that are not on the website yet (don't know which ones, though); who could I send the questions to?
21:24:10
flip214
Shinmera: okay, thanks a lot... can you tell me the fees of 2017? I guess that's the data they want to know.
21:35:56
Younder
flip214, Ahh, I was looking for the one doing lisp calculations. Anyhow is krystof still here?
22:06:56
ealfonso
is there a way to get rid of the surrounding |? (intern (format nil "xdotool-type-~A" "name")) => |xdotool-type-name|
22:09:10
ahungry
you are interning a lowercase, but the only way to tell the program its 'this' is |this| otherwise this = THIS
22:11:27
ahungry
(setq |a| 1) (setq a 2) (symbol-value (intern "a")) => 1, (symbol-value (intern "A")) => 2
22:14:48
aeth
What I do for things like this is #.(symbol-name '#:whatever-the-prefix-is-) because technically you can change how the reader case works to not upcase things. So this makes it into an upper case string at read time through the otherwise not very useful #. read eval feature
22:17:20
Fare
Xach: OK, I believe the build of influxdb is confused because cl-graph declares an absent file index.md, and this causes ASDF to think its build is incomplete
22:20:10
aeth
#.(symbol-name '#:whatever-the-prefix-is-) => "WHATEVER-THE-PREFIX-IS-" or "whatever-the-prefix-is-" depending on the readtable case
22:20:57
aeth
e.g. (let ((*readtable* (copy-readtable *readtable*))) (setf (readtable-case *readtable*) :preserve) (format t "~A~%" (read-from-string "hello")))
22:22:09
aeth
although, actually, that wouldn't help if they rebind the readtable like in that example, it would have to happen before the file is read, afaik
22:31:27
pjb
ealfonso: you may also try :INVERT instead of :PRESERVE, but it works only for symbols not having mixed case characters.
23:22:55
Fare
Xach: it looks like badly named secondary systems for in defsystem-connection might be to blame.
7:10:20
poorbean
hi I'm new in lisp, but python in mit is very bad to me. C beginning book is better, but I don't know which book is good? Thanks
7:15:20
poorbean
Hi beach can you help me, I'm Chinese. But I don't know the good book in begin when someone to competition?
7:15:38
Shinmera
I wonder why it happens so often that scheme people tumble in here when there's literally a channel called #scheme.
7:16:11
beach
poorbean: Like I said, this channel is dedicated to Common Lisp. If you want help with Common Lisp books, this is the right place to ask.
7:16:26
beach
poorbean: But if you want advice about Scheme books, you are better off asking in #scheme.
7:23:04
beach
jackdaniel: I was merely pointing out that whether this or that language is "a Lisp" is not something that is widely agreed upon.
7:38:38
Fare
poorbean, Scheme books for beginners include How to Design Programs, The Little Schemer.