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11:18:29
jackdaniel
Xach: I have SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN on planet.lisp.org (it says that cert is valid for www.xach.com and xach.com)
11:23:05
jackdaniel
and my firefox seems to append https automatically, that's probably why I entered it that way
15:53:25
devon
jackdaniel: Your graph at https://common-lisp.net/project/ecl/static/quarterly/img/vol4/all-hierarchy.png implausibly shows Lisp-to-C --> Star Sapphire
16:00:18
jackdaniel
devon: it is based from scraps of information I've found on the internet, and as we all know internet is a trustworthy resource
16:09:43
devon
JackDaniel: lol, according to a list of Commercial Common Lisp implementations at https://www.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/html/faqs/lang/lisp/part4/faq-doc-2.html ... Star Sapphire Common LISP 3.4 ... Sapiens Software also has a Lisp-to-C translator in beta-test
16:19:55
devon
I'd guess the ...> arrow points the wrong way as SSCL is a complete product and I don't know whether the later Lisp-to-C product ever made it out of Beta.
16:21:27
jackdaniel
I don't think Lisp-to-C translator has some code from Star Sapphire, if it is the component of the latter
16:26:00
jackdaniel
arrows are not about timeline, note clasp <--> ecl (even if clasp is ecl's fork)
16:28:59
jackdaniel
if there are two implementations with common roots which dross-pollute, they share code with each other
16:30:38
sjl
does "B shares code with A" means "some A's code is used by B" or "some of B's code is used by A"?
16:31:44
sjl
I think, judging by the directionality of the other kinds of arrows, that A --> B means "B contains some of A's code"
16:33:52
sjl
the legend says it means "B shares code with A", which might be interpreted the other way though. If "sjl shares coffee with jackdaniel" it's reasonable to expect that I've given you some of my coffee.
16:35:01
jackdaniel
if SSCL is a product which says, that it features LtC, then LtC is its component
17:00:28
devon
Lol, just a misleading graph on the internet, ho-hum. I'd like to see libre-licened source code to the Sapiens Software products - Star Sapphire Common Lisp & Lisp-to-C.
17:02:38
shrdlu68
Has any of you used adw-charting? http://ryepup.unwashedmeme.com/lisp/adw-charting/
17:05:24
jackdaniel
for instance (adw-charting:with-line-charts (200 100 :background '(1 .5 .5)) (adw-charting:add-series "foo" (list …)))
17:06:23
shrdlu68
jackdaniel: "Symbol "WITH-LINE-CHARTS" not found in the NET.ACCELERATION.CHARTING package."
17:07:52
shrdlu68
I think it ought to be "with-line-chart" without the "s" at the end, but even that doesn't work on my system.
17:18:30
shrdlu68
jackdaniel: I'me getting a different error this time: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/YyKp5c2pPI60SoeDCj7q/
17:39:43
jackdaniel
try using one of the examples in http://ryepup.unwashedmeme.com/lisp/adw-charting/
17:49:27
shrdlu68
jackdaniel: I had used the with-line-chart example in that webpage, but when I've tried the with-pie-chart example just now and it works.
18:27:57
jackdaniel
are there any worthy chatbots written in CL except cliki-bot cl-irc and derivatives?